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Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue

To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue
From: Donald Antilla via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 18:00:58 -0400
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OK- just saw this note. If you have replaced your flex hoses, then it is pr=
obably back to looking at your master cylinder.

Please be aware that most master cylinders have an internal =E2=80=9Chold 
off=E2=80=9D =
check valve to provide a bit of residual pressure to keep the seals in drum =
brake slave cylinders from leaking. Be certain you do not have that type of =
master cylinder if you have disc brakes.

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From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 4:45 PM
To: Don Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Issue

=20

I have brand new rubber hoses that I got from Sunbeam Specialties last week=
.

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On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:42 PM Donald Antilla <fast427@sbcglobal.net> wrot=
e:

I had this problem on two different cars. The cause was old flexible hydrau=
lic hoses that had deteriorated inside.=20
I changed them and the problem was resolved.=20

>From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427
Or 203-264-8301 home

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Hey,
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> I'm scratching my head over an issue I'm having with my brakes.  This act=
ually started last year and I'm just now trying to sort it out.
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> Basically, after pumping the brake pedal a few times the front brakes loc=
k up (only the fronts).  If I crack open either bleed screw they free up.  I=
n fact, cracking open the line anywhere going back to the master cylinder fr=
ees up the brakes.
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> I have bypassed the booster, replaced all of the rubber lines and rebuilt=
 the calipers.  This seems to leave the master cylinder.  I disconnected the=
 brake line from the master cylinder and put a short line on it that feeds b=
ack into the master cylinder reservoir so I could bleed any air out of it.  =
That all seems to work okay.
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> So, I'm looking for other ideas. =20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown=20
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style=3D'font-siz=
e:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>OK- just saw this note. If you have=
 replaced your flex hoses, then it is probably back to looking at your maste=
r cylinder.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span 
style=3D'font-size:1=
6.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Please be aware that most master cylin=
ders have an internal =E2=80=9Chold off=E2=80=9D check valve to provide a bit 
of residua=
l pressure to keep the seals in drum brake slave cylinders from leaking. Be =
certain you do not have that type of master cylinder if you have disc brakes=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span 
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><=
span style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:=
3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span 
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Joe Brow=
n &lt;jbbrown1980@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, June 24, 2021 at 4=
:45 PM<br><b>To: </b>Don Antilla &lt;fast427@sbcglobal.net&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b=
>Tigers Den &lt;Tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Br=
ake Issue<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have brand new rubber hoses that I got=
 from Sunbeam Specialties last week.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:=
42 PM Donald Antilla &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fast427@sbcglobal.net";>fast427@sbcg=
lobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;=
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margin-right:0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I had 
this=
 problem on two different cars. The cause was old flexible hydraulic hoses t=
hat had deteriorated inside. <br>I changed them and the problem was resolved=
. <br><br>From Don's iPhone 203-592-8427<br>Or 203-264-8301 home<br><br>&gt;=
 On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:39 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tiger=
s@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&g=
t; <br>&gt; =EF=BB=BF<br>&gt; Hey,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I'm scratching my head over 
an=
 issue I'm having with my brakes.&nbsp; This actually started last year and =
I'm just now trying to sort it out.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Basically, after pumpin=
g the brake pedal a few times the front brakes lock up (only the fronts).&nb=
sp; If I crack open either bleed screw they free up.&nbsp; In fact, cracking=
 open the line anywhere going back to the master cylinder frees up the brake=
s.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I have bypassed the booster, replaced all of the rubber =
lines and rebuilt the calipers.&nbsp; This seems to leave the master cylinde=
r.&nbsp; I disconnected the brake line from the master cylinder and put a sh=
ort line on it that feeds back into the master cylinder reservoir so I could=
 bleed any air out of it.&nbsp; That all seems to work okay.<br>&gt; <br>&gt=
; So, I'm looking for other ideas.&nbsp; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; J=
oe Brown <br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; <b=
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