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To: Rob Hogan <robertdhogan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tires
From: Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 18:42:11 -0800
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I don=E2=80=99t know about other dangers.  For example, are road tires =
designed to be more puncture resistant because roads are apt to have =
more sharp objects?  Are road tires designed to stand up to harsher =
shock if they hit a pot hole?  Is the lifespan of the R888rs so short on =
the road that a driver may not be cognizant of how far they have =
degraded with a =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D road use?

Like I said, I don=E2=80=99t know the answers to these questions.  I=E2=80=
=99m also of the opinion that companies have to put on warnings simply =
because their attorneys tell them to.  So here, where the tires are =
designed for a specific purpose and conditions, and they don=E2=80=99t =
give any attention to road hazards, they simply may not know the answer. =
 Thus the warning.

On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Rob Hogan <robertdhogan@gmail.com> wrote:

The response suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality =
paved road without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance =
to puncture.  Correct?=20

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com =
Well, first let me point out that even the WORST tire today is better =
than the BEST tire when these cars were new.

So, yes in a way they are dangerous for the road for two reason:
(1) They are not as good for wet or dusty roads;
(2) The put strain on suspension components that the components were not =
designed for.  So that will accelerate damage.  And the Tigers, with =
their Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A =
arms on.  That=E2=80=99s not a good thing to happen on the road - can =
definitely result in =E2=80=9Cserious bodily injury or death.=E2=80=9D



On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan <robertdhogan@gmail.com =

One thing I've been curious about is the disclaimer that the Toyo Proxes =
R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only".
Does usage of these tires on normal quality roads present a safety =
issue?

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On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via Tigers =
stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front 205 rear =
nothing hits and work great


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Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2021 10:48 pm
Subject: [Tigers] Tires

What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do you suggest =
purchasing them.  What are we running front and back, totally stock =
Tiger.=20

        Beau
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
don=E2=80=99t know about other dangers. &nbsp;For example, are road =
tires designed to be more puncture resistant because roads are apt to =
have more sharp objects? &nbsp;Are road tires designed to stand up to =
harsher shock if they hit a pot hole? &nbsp;Is the lifespan of the =
R888rs so short on the road that a driver may not be cognizant of how =
far they have degraded with a =E2=80=9Cnormal=E2=80=9D road use?<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Like I said, I don=E2=80=99=
t know the answers to these questions. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m also of the =
opinion that companies have to put on warnings simply because their =
attorneys tell them to. &nbsp;So here, where the tires are designed for =
a specific purpose and conditions, and they don=E2=80=99t give any =
attention to road hazards, they simply may not know the answer. =
&nbsp;Thus the warning.<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 6, 2021, at 3:44 PM, Rob Hogan &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:robertdhogan@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">robertdhogan@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">The response =
suggests that the tires can be used on a normal quality paved road =
without danger of unprovoked blowout or near zero resistance to =
puncture.&nbsp; Correct?&nbsp;</div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb =
6, 2021 at 4:32 PM Jay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: =
break-word;" class=3D"">Well, first let me point out that even the WORST =
tire today is better than the BEST tire when these cars were new.<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">So, yes in a way they =
are dangerous for the road for two reason:</div><div class=3D"">(1) They =
are not as good for wet or dusty roads;</div><div class=3D"">(2) The put =
strain on suspension components that the components were not designed =
for.&nbsp; So that will accelerate damage.&nbsp; And the Tigers, with =
their Ackermann issue are prone to breaking the bar that holds the A =
arms on.&nbsp; That=E2=80=99s not a good thing to happen on the road - =
can definitely result in =E2=80=9Cserious bodily injury or =
death.=E2=80=9D</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 6, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Rob Hogan &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:robertdhogan@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">robertdhogan@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">One thing I've =
been curious about is the disclaimer that the&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:13.3333px" class=3D"">Toyo Proxes =
R888r are for "racetrack and autocross only".</span></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:13.3333px" class=3D"">Does usage of =
these tires on normal quality roads present a safety =
issue?</span></div></div><div =
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class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 12:47 AM phastphill--- via =
Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
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class=3D"">stock body tiger 13'' pana sports toyo proxes r888r 195 front =
205 rear nothing hits and work great<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt" class=3D"">
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From: Lance Beauchamp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com"; =
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<div class=3D"">What the recommendation on new tires guys, and where do =
you suggest purchasing them.&nbsp; What are we running front and back, =
totally stock Tiger.&nbsp;
<div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Beau</div>
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