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Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle

To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle
From: GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 08:54:33 +0000 (UTC)
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Michael, you have had suggestions of:-Float adjustmentFuel PressureIdle scr=
ew adjustmentSemi blocked or blocked lines (add filters)Vacuum leaks
Just to round things off I'll add=C2=A0ignition timing.Dashpot oil
Clogged up poppet valve
As it was running after you cleared the fuel lines last time and the pump s=
ounds to be running at all times it raises the question of=C2=A0=C2=A0where=
 is all that pumped fuel going to? =C2=A0This may suggest a problem with th=
e float operated shut off valve. Were fuel lines blocked the pump would sto=
p running as it would be up to pressure. =C2=A0=C2=A0It is obviously someth=
ing that has happened fairly quickly as it is presumed it happened during t=
he journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with the choke on) when you l=
eft the house. =C2=A0As it runs OK at higher revs this may suggest it is NO=
T a blockage problem. =C2=A0
Guy R Day
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  On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets <spridgets@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
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 What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle screw)?=C2=A0 Perhaps it's=
 just set too low to idle.
What psi range does the pump run? =C2=A01.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs,=
 right.
Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets?
No vacuum leaks...right?
Herb=C2=A0


On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.=C2=
=A0 Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it woul=
d die.=C2=A0 I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging =
up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months with=
out starting it.=C2=A0 I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear th=
e new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but ac=
cording to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left.=C2=A0 As long as=
 I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.=
=C2=A0 That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally b=
reaking in.=C2=A0 I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one r=
eady to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old ethano=
l laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.=C2=A0 I =
thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.=C2=A0 It ran great fo=
r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and wou=
ld idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep =
it running.=C2=A0 I hate this Kalifornia gas.Mike MacLean60 Sprite56 BN2

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3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_10188" style=3D"color:#000;background-=
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ida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167"><div id=
=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_7484"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_7483" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;f=
ont-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, =
Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566=
878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3361">Michael=
, you have had suggestions of:-</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_1=
6_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_14457605668=
78_3362">Float adjustment</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_=
1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_336=
3">Fuel Pressure</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_144576056=
6878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3364">Idle s=
crew adjustment</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566=
878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3145">Semi bl=
ocked or blocked lines (add filters)</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_144576=
0566878_3480">Vacuum leaks</span></div><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1=
_1445760566878_3076"><span><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div id=3D"yiv38=
64422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_=
0_1_1445760566878_3574">Just to round things off I'll add&nbsp;</span></div=
><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv38=
64422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_12770">ignition timing.</span></div><div=
 id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076">Dashpot oil<br></div><=
div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span id=3D"yiv3864=
422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_13261">Clogged up poppet valve</span></div=
><div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span><br clear=
=3D"none"></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_144=
5760566878_3076"><span class=3D"yiv3864422167" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_=
0_1_1445760566878_7676">As it was running after you cleared the fuel lines =
last time and the pump sounds to be running at all times it raises the ques=
tion of&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;where is all that pumped fuel going to? &nbsp;Thi=
s may suggest a problem with the float operated shut off valve. Were fuel l=
ines blocked the pump would stop running as it would be up to pressure. &nb=
sp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_14457605668=
78_3076"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_14950">It is obviously some=
thing that has happened fairly quickly as it is presumed it happened during=
 the journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with the choke on) when you=
 left the house. &nbsp;As it runs OK at higher revs this may suggest it is =
NOT a blockage problem. &nbsp;</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv386442=
2167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076">Guy R Day</div><div i=
d=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076"><span><br clear=3D"none"=
></span></div>  <br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv3864422167qtdSeparateBR=
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"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15494"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15496"> On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Her=
b via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> =
</font> </div>  <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <div class=3D"yiv386=
4422167y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15333"><div id=3D"=
yiv3864422167"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15332"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15348">What happens when you 'idle it up=
' (adjust idle screw)?&nbsp; Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.<div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div>What psi range does the pump run? &nbsp;1.5 to 3=
.5 is good for these carbs, right.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>=
Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb &amp; jets?</div><=
div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15347">N=
o vacuum leaks...right?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Herb&nbsp;<=
/div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div=
 class=3D"yiv3864422167gmail_extra" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15331"=
><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv3864422167gmail_quote" id=3D"yui_3_16_=
0_1_1445760566878_15338">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean v=
ia Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:spr=
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ear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv3864422167gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
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 times, serif;font-size:16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15341"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_15340">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.&nbsp; Could not get it to =
idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.&nbsp; I recently =
had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after=
 leaving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.&nbsp; I=
 installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constan=
tly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gaug=
e it had at least a 1/4 tank left.&nbsp; As long as I kept my foot in it an=
d did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.&nbsp; That new 1275 tha=
t I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.&nbsp; I was =
going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and instal=
l), but I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling =
the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.&nbsp; I thought I cleaned the fu=
el system out of the ethanol.&nbsp; It ran great for a while. It did die a =
couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to k=
eep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running.&nbsp; I hate=
 this Kalifornia gas.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144576056687=
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