...and if there was ever a delay that was annoying, count the turn-in delay as
number one!!!I ran one set of 235/45-17 tires on 7.5" rims and that caused a
sloppy reaction to quick steering inputs. I'm sure not as bad as yours, but
nevertheless perciptible enough to make it unpleasurable driving in the
car...IMO.Then I ran a couple of 235/45-17 tires on 8" rims, and handling was
razorsharp.And that is what I want - my SHO must be a razorblade!Michael-----
Original Message -----From: "Hartberger, Jason M. AT2 (AW)" Date: Tuesday,
July 25, 2006 9:02 amSubject: RE: [Shotimes] Thoughts on Kumho Ecsta 711sTo:
"James F. Ryan III" Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net> Holy crap, 255 would be
untenable. No, I meant 225/50. Yes, no wider> than 225/55, but the sidewall is
shorter, therefore the angle between> the tread shoulder and the rim is
sharper, which means there's > more give> just to make it straight. It's still
not too bad, though. Once the> initial slop is gone, the turning rate is just
as sharp as ever. > There'sjust a little... delay to deal with when turning
the > wheel hard.> > Jason> > -----Original Message-----> From: James F. Ryan
III [mailto:av8r567@optonline.net] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:21 AM>
To: Hartberger, Jason M. AT2 (AW); shotimes@autox.team.net> Subject: Re:
[Shotimes] Thoughts on Kumho Ecsta 711s> > 225/50s and 225/55s are the same
width........225mm.> > I'll assume you meant 255/50....that would be wide.> >
255/50 has a sidewall height of:> 255 x .50 = 127.5mm> 127.5 / 25.4 =
5.02"> > 225/55 has a sidewall height of:> 225 x .55 = 123.75mm> 123.75
/ 25.4 = 4.87"> (that's why steering response is so good)> > 215/60 has a
sidewall height of:> 215 x .60 = 129.0mm> 129.0 / 25.4 = 5.08"> > The
255/50 and the stock 215/60 have an almost identical sidewall> height.> But,
the stock 6" wide wheel pulls the sidewalls in too tight and> therefore> they
are not in a "natural orientation". That's the reason for the> mushy>
turn-in.> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hartberger, Jason M.
AT2 (AW)" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:47 PM> Subject: [Shotimes]
Thoughts on Kumho Ecsta 711s> > > > Got 4 Kumho Ecsta 711s put on the stock
slicers the other day, > I got> > 225/50/16s. Most people will go "that's too
wide!" and in > retrospect,> they're right. Steering turn-in has gone to crap.
I > used to have> > 225/55/16 Yoko AVS dB2s on, and steering response was much
> better. Is> it> > because the sidewall is shorter in the new tires? Is it >
because the> > sidewall of the new tires is just that much less stiff? I >
don't know.> > Traction is much better in the dry. I just installed bias >
plugs and> did> > a full flush of the brakes and stopping is now even more >
ridiculously> short than it was before, and it's now really hard > to break
traction> on> > them, and I have a pretty good tip-in response.> >> > So, I
guess to sum it up, traction is better, but turning is > mushier,> than nearly
bald yoko AVS dB2s. It's mushier than the > old tires when> > they were new
too, though. At least riding over bumps isn't as > painful> now...> >> > At
least they're cheap! $78 per. :)> >> > V/R> > AT2(AW) Hartberger, Jason M.> >
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