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To: shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>, Mike Rambour <lists@dinospider.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air compressor issue
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 20:39:05 +0000 (UTC)
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It could be something clogging the port to the pressure switch holding resi=
dual pressure there in a sense "faking" it out.=C2=A0 I'd try taking the sw=
itch off and some of the associated plumbing and blow it out.=C2=A0 Maybe a=
 new switch is in your future.

Dave=20


=20

    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 03:30:16 PM CDT, Mike Rambour <lists@dinos=
pider.com> wrote: =20
=20
  =C2=A0Hi,

Having a problem with my 5hp Champion Advantage compressor.=C2=A0 I called=
=20
TPTools where I purchased it in 2001 and they were useless, they want to=20
send out a service rep to fix it ($$$).

The issue its having is first 2 or 3 cycles of the day when its cold, it=20
cycles normally, comes on at around 120-125PSI and shuts off at 175PSI,=20
after those 2 or 3 cycles it only comes back on at around 15PSI or even=20
lower and it does this all day until next day.=C2=A0 I only work in the=20
garage on weekends but I am in the bead blasting stage of my restoration=20
so using the compressor heavily those 2 days a week.

 =C2=A0They said turn it off and drain all the air, then cycle it back on a=
nd=20
listen for the "Hiss" (their word) when the compressor shuts off and=20
listen for the hiss and keep doing that until the compressor does not=20
cycle anymore, did I hear the hiss or not, did the motor hum when trying=20
to restart ?=C2=A0=C2=A0 If that is the case the unloader valve is bad.=C2=
=A0 I do=20
normally hear the hiss, I don't pay attention EVERY time though and the=20
motor does not hum.

 =C2=A0Isn't it just a pressure valve ? this thing is over 20 years old and=
=20
first time giving me issues.=C2=A0 But they want to send out a tech to=20
diagnose and fix the issue meaning having to take a day off work and=20
spend $$$ when it should be simple. I do agree with the guy that I don't=20
want to throw money at the problem and swap random parts but I don't=20
need a tech, just how to diag which part is the issue.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am goi=
ng to=20
be blasting a lot over the weekend.

 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mike

--=20
As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners Union
carburetors in his vintage Singer, highly functional yet pleasingly formed,
perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced
hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected
and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the Singer shop manual.

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                    On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 03:30:16 PM CDT, Mike Ramb=
our &lt;lists@dinospider.com&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr"> &nbsp;Hi,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Having a problem with my 5hp Champion Advantage =
compressor.&nbsp; I called <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">TPTools where I purch=
ased it in 2001 and they were useless, they want to <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">send out a service rep to fix it ($$$).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">The issue its having is first 2 or 3 cycles of the da=
y when its cold, it <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">cycles normally, comes on at=
 around 120-125PSI and shuts off at 175PSI, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">afte=
r those 2 or 3 cycles it only comes back on at around 15PSI or even <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">lower and it does this all day until next day.&nbsp; I =
only work in the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">garage on weekends but I am in =
the bead blasting stage of my restoration <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">so usi=
ng the compressor heavily those 2 days a week.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> &nbsp;They said turn it off and drain all the air=
, then cycle it back on and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">listen for the "Hiss=
" (their word) when the compressor shuts off and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>listen for the hiss and keep doing that until the compressor does not <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">cycle anymore, did I hear the hiss or not, did the m=
otor hum when trying <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to restart ?&nbsp;&nbsp; If=
 that is the case the unloader valve is bad.&nbsp; I do <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">normally hear the hiss, I don't pay attention EVERY time though an=
d the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">motor does not hum.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> &nbsp;Isn't it just a pressure valve ? this=
 thing is over 20 years old and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">first time givin=
g me issues.&nbsp; But they want to send out a tech to <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">diagnose and fix the issue meaning having to take a day off work a=
nd <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">spend $$$ when it should be simple. I do agre=
e with the guy that I don't <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">want to throw money =
at the problem and swap random parts but I don't <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>need a tech, just how to diag which part is the issue.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am go=
ing to <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be blasting a lot over the weekend.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; mike<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-- <br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Skinners U=
nion<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">carburetors in his vintage Singer, highly fu=
nctional yet pleasingly formed,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">perched prominent=
ly on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be i=
nspected<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and adjusted as described in chapter sev=
en of the Singer shop manual.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
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