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To: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> definitions=2021-08-21_08:2021-08-20, 2021-08-21 signatures=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2009150000 definitions=main-2108210121
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply
From: Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:22:07 -0400
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Probably preaching to the choir, but make sure any windows to that porch are=
 closed!

Tom Coradeschi
tjcora@icloud.com

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFThanks.  The generator is currently sitting in a screened-in porc=
h and, as long as it is reasonably dry in there during the storm, I wiI run i=
t there off of the tanks at first and connect it to the house supply once th=
e rain stops.  I think our hatches are sufficiently battened down.  It is he=
lpful that this will hit during daylight hours.  And, some really tall, unhe=
althy trees have already been removed from our house and the two adjacent pr=
operties, which is certainly good. =20
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> I assume I will know a heck of a lot more in 24 hours or so!
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>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora@icloud.com> wrote:=

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>> Jim: You should be good to go. Time=E2=80=99s a wastin=E2=80=99!
>>=20
>> Tom Coradeschi
>> tjcora@icloud.com
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>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected p=
aths of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without po=
wer, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy.  Short=
ly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-=
tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBh=
BPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_Bw=
E) which, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically t=
o be safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard r=
egulator.  A little Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:
>>>=20
>>> Low Pressure Regulator
>>> Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG
>>> Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)
>>> Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)
>>>=20
>>> We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.   I=
 had an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in c=
ase I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator di=
rectly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks.=
  The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for t=
he water heater:
>>>=20
>>> Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>>> Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
>>> Recovery Rating:               206/Gallons/HR
>>> Max Working Pressure:     150psi
>>> Max Output:                       180,000 BTU/HR
>>> Max Input:                          11,000 BTU/HR
>>> Manifold Pressure:             3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)
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>>> Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directl=
y to the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, I tried it onc=
e with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out a=
ny appreciable power.  I always meant to research this before I needed it, b=
ut like many of us, never got around to it until now.
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>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>>=20
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Probably preaching to the choir, but make s=
ure any windows to that porch are closed!<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><span styl=
e=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Tom Coradeschi</span><div><s=
pan dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">tjcora@i=
cloud.com</span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">O=
n Aug 21, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Jim Stone &lt;1789alpine@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Tha=
nks. &nbsp;The generator is currently sitting in a screened-in porch and, as=
 long as it is reasonably&nbsp;dry&nbsp;in there during the storm, I wiI run=
 it there off of the tanks at first and connect it to the house supply once t=
he rain stops. &nbsp;I think our hatches are sufficiently battened down. &nb=
sp;It is helpful that this will hit during daylight hours. &nbsp;And, some r=
eally tall, unhealthy trees have already been removed from our house and the=
 two adjacent properties, which is certainly good. &nbsp;<div class=3D""><br=
 class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I assume I will know a heck of a lot more i=
n 24 hours or so!<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite=
" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 3:04 PM, Thomas Coradeschi &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjcora@icloud.com"; class=3D"">tjcora@icloud.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta h=
ttp-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""=
><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Jim: You should be good to go. Time=E2=80=99s a=
 wastin=E2=80=99!<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><=
span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D"">Tom Cora=
deschi</span><div class=3D""><span dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"background-color: rg=
ba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:tjcora@icloud.com"; class=
=3D"">tjcora@icloud.com</a></span></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Aug 21, 2021, at 2:08 P=
M, Jim Stone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; class=3D"">1789alpi=
ne@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<m=
eta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=
=3D"">I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths of=
 Hurricane Henri. &nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without powe=
r, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. &nbsp;Sh=
ortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (<a href=3D"https://www.jbtool=
s.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gcli=
d=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxK=
o54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen400=
0lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7=
zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) w=
hich, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to b=
e safe. &nbsp;It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standar=
d regulator. &nbsp;A little Googling shows the following specs for the regul=
ator:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailO=
utline"><li class=3D"">Low Pressure Regulator</li><li class=3D"">Inlet Press=
ure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25-250PSIG</li><li cla=
ss=3D"">Outlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D=
 (11"W.C.)</li><li class=3D"">Flow Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; &nbsp;119000(BTU/hr=
)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use=
 Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. &nbsp; I had=
 an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case I=
 ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator directl=
y to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks. &nbs=
p;The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for t=
he water heater:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><=
ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Max Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp=
;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Min Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Recovery Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 206/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pre=
ssure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 150psi</li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 BTU/HR</=
li><li class=3D"">Max Input: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">=
Manifold Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.=
C. (For Max Input)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly=
 to the house supply without the regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I tried it=
 once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put o=
ut any appreciable power. &nbsp;I always meant to research this before I nee=
ded it, but like many of us, never got around to it until now.</div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Ji=
m</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><span class=3D"">_______________________________________________</s=
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