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To: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> 2903e8d5c8f:6.0.391,18.0.790,17.0.607.475.0000000 definitions=2021-08-21_08:2021-08-20_03,2021-08-21_08,2020-04-07_01 signatures=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1011 phishscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2108210116
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] LP Generator supply
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 13:38:27 -0500
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Looks like it should work without the regulator. What size pipe did the do t=
he new pipe in? What size line did you run between the pipe & generator? Jus=
t because the the pressures match, flow rate also has to be sufficient.=20

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFI am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths=
 of Hurricane Henri.  We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without power,=
 although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy.  Shortly a=
fter Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tool=
s-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEi=
wAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE) w=
hich, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to b=
e safe.  It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standard reg=
ulator.  A little Googling shows the following specs for the regulator:

Low Pressure Regulator
Inlet Pressure:               25-250PSIG
Outlet Pressure:            280mmH2O=3D (11"W.C.)
Flow Capacity(MAX):    119000(BTU/hr)

We use Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank.   I ha=
d an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case=
 I ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator direc=
tly to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks.  T=
he house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for the w=
ater heater:

Max Inlet Gas Pressure:    13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
Min Inlet Gas Pressure:     8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.
Recovery Rating:               206/Gallons/HR
Max Working Pressure:     150psi
Max Output:                       180,000 BTU/HR
Max Input:                          11,000 BTU/HR
Manifold Pressure:             3.9 =E2=80=9CW.C. (For Max Input)

Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly to=
 the house supply without the regulator?  For the record, I tried it once wi=
th the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put out any a=
ppreciable power.  I always meant to research this before I needed it, but l=
ike many of us, never got around to it until now.

Thanks,
Jim


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Looks like it should work without the regul=
ator. What size pipe did the do the new pipe in? What size line did you run b=
etween the pipe &amp; generator? Just because the the pressures match, flow r=
ate also has to be sufficient.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat=
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity=
</div><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 21, 2021, at 1:08 PM,=
 Jim Stone &lt;1789alpine@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8">I am on Eastern Long Island, directly in one of the projected paths o=
f Hurricane Henri. &nbsp;We are being told to plan for 7-10 days without pow=
er, although FWIW we were only powerless for 4 days following Sandy. &nbsp;S=
hortly after Sandy I purchased an LP Generator (<a href=3D"https://www.jbtoo=
ls.com/buffalo-tools-gen4000lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gcl=
id=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQx=
Ko54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE" class=3D"">https://www.jbtools.com/buffalo-tools-gen40=
00lp-4000-watt-propane-generator/?wi=3Doff&amp;gclid=3DCjwKCAjwyIKJBhBPEiwAu=
7zll1U54VH4euJneVO0jmOzjdgwy6-t0MUdEtaEHYXf_7W0sQxKo54TphoC__4QAvD_BwE</a>) w=
hich, of course, I have never needed, although I do run it periodically to b=
e safe. &nbsp;It is designed to run off of LP tanks and comes with a standar=
d regulator. &nbsp;A little Googling shows the following specs for the regul=
ator:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D"MailO=
utline"><li class=3D"">Low Pressure Regulator</li><li class=3D"">Inlet Press=
ure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25-250PSIG</li><li cla=
ss=3D"">Outlet Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;280mmH2O=3D=
 (11"W.C.)</li><li class=3D"">Flow Capacity(MAX): &nbsp; &nbsp;119000(BTU/hr=
)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"">We use=
 Propane for DHW and heat and have a 500 gallon in-ground tank. &nbsp; I had=
 an outside gas line stubbed out when the house was remodeled, just in case I=
 ever needed it and I would like to be able to connect the generator directl=
y to the house supply and avoid having to depend on the portable tanks. &nbs=
p;The house supply is regulated and, as an example, here are the specs for t=
he water heater:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><=
ul class=3D"MailOutline"><li class=3D"">Max Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp=
;13.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Min Inlet Gas Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 8.0 =E2=80=9CW.C.</li><li class=3D"">Recovery Rating: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 206/Gallons/HR</li><li class=3D"">Max Working Pre=
ssure: &nbsp; &nbsp; 150psi</li><li class=3D"">Max Output: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 180,000 BTU/HR</=
li><li class=3D"">Max Input: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;11,000 BTU/HR</li><li class=3D"">=
Manifold Pressure: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3.9 =E2=80=9CW.=
C. (For Max Input)</li></ul><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
"">Am I missing anything, or should I be able to hook the generator directly=
 to the house supply without the regulator? &nbsp;For the record, I tried it=
 once with the regulator attached and it barely ran and didn=E2=80=99t put o=
ut any appreciable power. &nbsp;I always meant to research this before I nee=
ded it, but like many of us, never got around to it until now.</div><div cla=
ss=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Ji=
m</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
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