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To: nick brearley <nick@landform.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] air/hydraulic floor jack
From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 07:00:07 -0800
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Hi guys,

I did all of my lifting with a standard 2.5 ton floor jack and four jack
stands for decades.

Although I still have a decent hydraulic floor jack that must be close to
thirty years old now, I do have a four-post lift (Backyard Buddy), and
bought some air jacks to use on with the lift (you cannot use a floor jack
very easily with the lift, though I do have center panels for the lift.

I have found, though, that I use the air jacks now on the floor almost
exclusively instead of the floor jack. They go up so easily, quickly,
controllably, etc., with just one finger and you can watch closely as you
position them..

I bought Zendex (all USA made) and they have two heights (a two bag and a
three bag). The two bag jack is ideal for sports cars (it will slide under
my Lotus Elise,), but barely has enough lift for my GMC cargo van where the
three bagger is much better.


I also use the two bagger on my motorcycles:
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=446D39C8B1E43758&id=446D39C8B1E43758%21166810&parId=446D39C8B1E43758%21166807&o=OneUp
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=446D39C8B1E43758&id=446D39C8B1E43758%21166817&parId=446D39C8B1E43758%21166807&o=OneUp

For close work, like lifting a motorcycle high enough to slide an axle
through the wheel and swing arm, these jacks are terrific.

They are a little heavy and a little pricey, though there are cheaper
Chinese copies out there.

Thay make one on wheels that works like a floor jack as well: I have not
used one, but it looks bulky:
https://shop.zendextool.com/GA3620--GoJak%C2%AE-Air%E2%84%A2_p_179.html

I also have the old fashion chain fall on an I-beam trolley that I still
use often:
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=446D39C8B1E43758&id=446D39C8B1E43758%21166813&parId=446D39C8B1E43758%21166807&o=OneUp

And the Backyard Buddy:
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=446D39C8B1E43758&id=446D39C8B1E43758%21166814&parId=446D39C8B1E43758%21166807&o=OneUp

And if you have motorcycles, you really need one of these:
https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=446D39C8B1E43758&id=446D39C8B1E43758%21166815&parId=446D39C8B1E43758%21166807&o=OneUp

For lifting purposes I still use a mix of all of them depending upon what
works best for the particular task at hand.

best,

doug





On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:04 AM nick brearley <nick@landform.co.uk> wrote:

>
> On 31/01/2021 02:24, Jim Franklin wrote:
> >
> > But you asked for clever:
> >
> > https://www.quickjack.com/ <https://www.quickjack.com/>
> >
> Interesting piece of kit, can be used transversely according to the
> website. Although that might make for interesting reactions when the car
> moves away from (or towards) you as you lift it. Like the portability
> and ease of setup.
>
> I have a lift using a similar principle, but beefed up, made by AC
> Hydraulic :
>
> http://www.profo.cz/files/doc/L20PH.pdf
>
> Had it 20+ years now and still satisfied/irritated with it. Ideal for
> brake and suspension work, exhausts not so much. Works for MX5 (Miata)
> up to 2 tonne 4x4 but needs an assortment of cradle blocks and ramps to
> avoid fouling exhausts on the cross member. But the cross member gives
> stability that won't be there with the Quickjacks. The portability means
> it can be used anywhere there is a stable foundation and a compressed
> air supply. The parallelogram action means that the handbrake should be
> off before lifting and lowering.
>
> AC Hydraulic/Weber make good stuff. I have a 6t trolley jack, good for
> LGV work.
>
> Nick Brearley
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi guys,<div><br></div><div>I did all of my lifting with a=
 standard 2.5 ton floor jack and four jack stands for decades.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Although I still have a decent hydraulic floor jack that must =
be close to thirty years old now, I do have a four-post lift (Backyard Budd=
y), and bought some air jacks to use on with the lift (you cannot use a flo=
or jack very easily with the lift, though I do have center panels for the l=
ift.<div><br></div><div>I have found, though, that I use the air jacks now =
on the floor almost exclusively instead of the floor jack. They go up so ea=
sily, quickly, controllably, etc., with just one finger and you can watch c=
losely as you position them..</div><div><br></div><div>I bought Zendex (all=
 USA made) and they have two heights (a two bag and a three bag). The two=
=C2=A0bag jack is ideal for sports cars (it will slide under my Lotus Elise=
,), but barely has enough lift for my GMC cargo van where the three bagger =
is much better.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I also use the two =
bagger on my motorcycles:</div><div><a href=3D"https://onedrive.live.com/?c=
id=3D446D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166810&amp;parId=3D446D39=
C8B1E43758%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp">https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3D446D39C=
8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166810&amp;parId=3D446D39C8B1E43758%2=
1166807&amp;o=3DOneUp</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://onedrive.live.co=
m/?cid=3D446D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166817&amp;parId=3D44=
6D39C8B1E43758%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp">https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3D446=
D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166817&amp;parId=3D446D39C8B1E437=
58%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>For close work, =
like lifting a motorcycle high enough to slide an axle through the wheel an=
d swing arm, these jacks are terrific.</div><div><br></div><div>They are a =
little heavy and a little pricey, though there are cheaper Chinese copies o=
ut there.</div><div><br></div><div>Thay make one on wheels that works like =
a floor jack as well: I have not used one, but it looks bulky:</div><div><a=
 href=3D"https://shop.zendextool.com/GA3620--GoJak%C2%AE-Air%E2%84%A2_p_179=
.html">https://shop.zendextool.com/GA3620--GoJak%C2%AE-Air%E2%84%A2_p_179.h=
tml</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I also have the old fashion chain fall=
 on an I-beam trolley that I still use often:</div><div><a href=3D"https://=
onedrive.live.com/?cid=3D446D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%2116681=
3&amp;parId=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp">https://onedrive.liv=
e.com/?cid=3D446D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166813&amp;parId=
=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp</a></div><div><br></div><div>And=
 the Backyard Buddy:</div><div><a href=3D"https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3D=
446D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166814&amp;parId=3D446D39C8B1E=
43758%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp">https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3D446D39C8B1E4=
3758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166814&amp;parId=3D446D39C8B1E43758%211668=
07&amp;o=3DOneUp</a></div><div><br></div><div>And if you have motorcycles, =
you really need one of these:</div><div><a href=3D"https://onedrive.live.co=
m/?cid=3D446D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166815&amp;parId=3D44=
6D39C8B1E43758%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp">https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=3D446=
D39C8B1E43758&amp;id=3D446D39C8B1E43758%21166815&amp;parId=3D446D39C8B1E437=
58%21166807&amp;o=3DOneUp</a></div><div><br></div><div>For lifting purposes=
 I still use a mix of all of them depending upon what works best for the pa=
rticular task at hand.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>best,</div><div><br><=
/div><div>doug</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 2:04 AM nick brearley &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:nick@landform.co.uk">nick@landform.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
On 31/01/2021 02:24, Jim Franklin wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But you asked for clever:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.quickjack.com/"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_b=
lank">https://www.quickjack.com/</a> &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.quickjack.c=
om/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.quickjack.com/</a>&gt=
;<br>
&gt;<br>
Interesting piece of kit, can be used transversely according to the <br>
website. Although that might make for interesting reactions when the car <b=
r>
moves away from (or towards) you as you lift it. Like the portability <br>
and ease of setup.<br>
<br>
I have a lift using a similar principle, but beefed up, made by AC <br>
Hydraulic :<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.profo.cz/files/doc/L20PH.pdf"; rel=3D"noreferrer" targ=
et=3D"_blank">http://www.profo.cz/files/doc/L20PH.pdf</a><br>
<br>
Had it 20+ years now and still satisfied/irritated with it. Ideal for <br>
brake and suspension work, exhausts not so much. Works for MX5 (Miata) <br>
up to 2 tonne 4x4 but needs an assortment of cradle blocks and ramps to <br=
>
avoid fouling exhausts on the cross member. But the cross member gives <br>
stability that won&#39;t be there with the Quickjacks. The portability mean=
s <br>
it can be used anywhere there is a stable foundation and a compressed <br>
air supply. The parallelogram action means that the handbrake should be <br=
>
off before lifting and lowering.<br>
<br>
AC Hydraulic/Weber make good stuff. I have a 6t trolley jack, good for <br>
LGV work.<br>
<br>
Nick Brearley<br>
<br>
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