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Re: [Shop-talk] Tool shed foundation?

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tool shed foundation?
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 13:59:29 -0400
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I=E2=80=99ll jump in on the =E2=80=98what not to do=E2=80=99 front.  I =
have a 7=E2=80=99 x7=E2=80=99 Rubbermaid shed that I =E2=80=98temporarily=E2=
=80=99 put up a few years ago.  Since it was only temporary, I got lazy =
and didn=E2=80=99t properly level the surface.  Instead, I took two =
3/4=E2=80=9D 4X8 sheets of pressure treated plywood and screwed them =
onto a couple of p/t 2x4=E2=80=99s to form a base.  I shimmed the whole =
thing until it was sort of level and then built the shed on top of that. =
 The doors have never opened and closed properly and it has gotten worse =
over time as the makeshift foundation conforms to the ground below it. =20=


I agree that a poured foundation is probably overkill, but it would =
definitely be worth spending the time to make sure the shed sits on a =
compacted, FLAT, LEVEL surface. =20

Jim

> On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Doug Braun <doug@dougbraun.com> wrote:
>=20
> Several years ago I got an 8x8' wooden shed, and I made a pad of =
gravel within a wooden frame of 6x6 PT lumber.  It was sunk partly into =
the ground on one side to make it level.  It has worked out fine.  (I =
should have used a bit more gravel to allow for settling.)
>=20
> Doug
>=20
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 10:43 AM Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com =
> First off. I'll inform you that I had Comcast, my service provider,=20
> switch out my old cable modem for a faster, wifi enabled unit.  At the=20=

> moment I *think* Team Net is still working as usual, no service=20
> disruption.  We shall see.
>=20
> Okay, now that the man behind the curtain stuff is out of the way I am=20=

> planning getting a plastic garden shed. I'm looking at one big enough =
to=20
> hold the lawnmover, weed whackers, rakes, etc. Basically all the =
garden=20
> stuff that is taking up valuable space in the garage. I need the room =
to=20
> actually get some work done on my cars.
>=20
> It's only 7 feet wide and 4 feet deep.  It comes with a plastic slab =
as=20
> the floor.  What do you think, can I just scrape a space in the dirt=20=

> that is fairly level and call it good?  Or go all the way and have a=20=

> small, say 8 x 5 concrete slab professionally poured as a foundation? =20=

> That will likely cost more than the shed!
>=20
> mjb.
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ll jump in on the =E2=80=98what not to do=E2=80=99 =
front. &nbsp;I have a 7=E2=80=99 x7=E2=80=99 Rubbermaid shed that I =
=E2=80=98temporarily=E2=80=99 put up a few years ago. &nbsp;Since it was =
only temporary, I got lazy and didn=E2=80=99t properly level the =
surface. &nbsp;Instead, I took two 3/4=E2=80=9D 4X8 sheets of pressure =
treated plywood and screwed them onto a couple of p/t 2x4=E2=80=99s to =
form a base. &nbsp;I shimmed the whole thing until it was sort of level =
and then built the shed on top of that. &nbsp;The doors have never =
opened and closed properly and it has gotten worse over time as the =
makeshift foundation conforms to the ground below it. &nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I agree that a poured =
foundation is probably overkill, but it would definitely be worth =
spending the time to make sure the shed sits on a compacted, FLAT, LEVEL =
surface. &nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jim<br=
 class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Doug Braun &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:doug@dougbraun.com"; class=3D"">doug@dougbraun.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D"">Several years ago I got an 8x8' wooden shed, and I =
made a pad of gravel within a wooden frame of 6x6 PT lumber.&nbsp; It =
was sunk partly into the ground on one side to make it level.&nbsp; It =
has worked out fine.&nbsp; (I should have used a bit more gravel to =
allow for settling.)<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Doug</div></div><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 10:43 AM Mark J Bradakis =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com"; =
class=3D"">mark@bradakis.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">First off. =
I'll inform you that I had Comcast, my service provider,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">switch out =
my old cable modem for a faster, wifi enabled unit.&nbsp; At the<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"">moment I =
*think* Team Net is still working as usual, no service<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">disruption.&nbsp; We shall see.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Okay, now that the man behind the curtain stuff is out of the =
way I am<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">planning getting a plastic garden shed. I'm looking at one =
big enough to<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">hold the lawnmover, weed whackers, rakes, etc. Basically all =
the garden<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">stuff that is taking up valuable space in the garage. I need =
the room to<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">actually get some work done on my cars.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">It's only 7 feet wide and 4 feet deep.&nbsp; It comes with a =
plastic slab as<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">the floor.&nbsp; What do you think, can I just scrape a space =
in the dirt<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">that is fairly level and call it good?&nbsp; Or go all the =
way and have a<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">small, say 8 x 5 concrete slab professionally poured as a =
foundation?&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"">That will likely cost more than the shed!<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">mjb.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
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