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Re: [Shop-talk] Learning to weld on your own?

To: Darrell Walker <darrellw360@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Learning to weld on your own?
From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:01:49 -0700
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Darrell - I'm not a good welder, so can't offer technical details about 
the different types of equipment, but I do have some other suggestions. 
  Some of this depends on your intentions for the car.

- Look for a local welder and get a quote for the welding work.  I did 
this to repair my cracked TR6 differential mounts and some frame 
cracking.  I did the prep on my schedule by cleaning down to bare metal 
and having the reinforcing brackets ready.  The car was up on jack 
stands and the differential and suspension parts were out of the way.  I 
did not have a welder or the power to run one in that apartment's 
garage.  The guy came out with a small welder and generator and charged 
me $60 for the job (a 1 hour minimum).  He finished it in about 30 
minutes and gave me a 30 minute credit for any work I brought to his 
shop.  Even if I could weld, lying on your back and welding above you 
doesn't sound like fun.  This was a 1995 price in the Los Angeles area. 
  Well worth the expense.

- When I rebuilt my TR6 engine, I also painted the engine compartment. 
I went down to bare metal and discovered several places where screw 
holes were filled with Bondo.  They were at least a decade old and I 
didn't have any idea they were there.  One side was painted and the 
other side was undercoated.  If the car is  a driver, consider just 
filling the holes with Bondo.  You will have to knock down the raised 
areas where the screws were.  This could be an option for the trim and 
luggage rack holes.

- For the rear panel, better Bondo may also be an option.  Clean up the 
old bad job then see about popping out the dent.    If you have access 
to both sides, you could get a Harbor Freight  7 Piece Body and Fender 
Set - item#31277, on sale for $29.99.  With a little time, you can get 
much closer and just have a thin layer of Bondo. I did this with my 
Subaru door after a neighbor backed into it and you couldn't tell after 
I painted.  A body shop wanted $740 for a job I did in a weekend plus 
two evenings.

- For removing old Bondo (outside), I used my angle grinder and a couple 
wire brushes.  I did most of the work with a cupped brush, but also had 
a disk and small ones in a drill.  Wear eye protection and at least a 
dusk mask if not a respirator.  You get down to nice clean metal that 
takes new Bondo and paint very well.

- If you do want to get into welding, check with a local welding supply 
company.  They may offer some sort of training program, especially with 
an equipment purchase.  Being a novice and not used to the equipment, 
you are also likely to need their assistance at some point - something 
you are not likely to get if you buy the equipment at a home center. 
They will probably also help set it up and make recommendations for 
settings.

- Finally, if you weld, pick up some trash body panels and practice 
welding before you get near your TR8.  Also keep a fire extinguisher 
handy just in case.

Brian


On 7/29/2013 3:54 PM, Darrell Walker wrote:
> I have some body repairs I'd like to do on my TR8, and I'm wondering about the
> feasibility of learning to weld well enough to do them on my own.  I've
> checked the local community college, and the only welding classes they have
> are geared toward students preparing for a career in welding, they don't have
> any "Adult Ed" type classes.  Of course, I could have a body shop do it, but
> the few that are willing to do this kind of work want to do the whole job at
> once, and not piecemeal (I also want a respray at some point).
>
> I have three different things to address:
>

>
> --
> Darrell Walker
> 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L
> 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206
> Vancouver, WA, USA
> _______________________________________________
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