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Re: [Shop-talk] using paypal

To: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>, "shop-talk"
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] using paypal
From: "john niolon" <jniolon@bham.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:51:47 -0500
so hearing all the scary stories.... what would be a safe alternative ??  If 
I knew this guy it might be different but I don't....  I a little skittish 
about checks... been burned before...  money order ???

j


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
To: "'john niolon'" <jniolon@bham.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Shop-talk] using paypal


> John,
>
> If I recall the discussion correctly, a PayPal transfer is riskier than a
> personal check.  If PayPal somehow gets defrauded on the sending end, they
> will seize your account, or sue you for fraud if you've already cleaned it
> out.
>
> But it's worse than that.  If the seller claims they don't receive the
> merchandise, they can file a complaint with PayPal who will again seize 
> the
> account until the dispute is settled (ie you prove that the buyer did
> receive the merchandise).
>
> And it gets worse again if the buyer used a credit card to pay PayPal; now
> all they have to do is claim to their credit card company that the
> merchandise was defective or unacceptable in some way, and you have to 
> prove
> to THEIR CC company that the claims are false.
>
> Google for "PayPal fraud", you'll get lots of hits.  Of course, some of
> those are probably fakes setup by PayPal's competitors, but not all of 
> them.
>
> There are some recently-enacted protections, but only for items 
> bought/sold
> through eBay.  Now that eBay owns PayPal, they don't much care about 
> outside
> business.
>
> Randall
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:shop-talk-
>> bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john niolon
>> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:04 PM
>> To: shop-talk
>> Subject: [Shop-talk] using paypal
>>
>> I'm in the midst of a sale of wrenchs to a guy in New York State... I'm 
>> in
>> Alabama.  He wants to pay me by paypal... I have a paypal account I use
>> for
>> paying but never have used for receiving payment... how does it work ??
>> dangers ???  fees ???  It's a reasonably large amount of money so I'm 
>> wary
>>
>> thanks
>> John
>>
>>
>> A government which robs Peter to pay Paul
>> can always depend on the support of Paul.
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