I have had a variety of pads over the years, including Mintex, and they all
have had the handed backing-plate. They almost, but not quite, fit in the
wrong way round, and obviously fit better the other way. I had three inners
and an outer in a box once - most annoying.
PaulH.
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Hoy <larryhoy@prodigy.net>
To: KILE, PAUL D <Paul.Kile@Aerojet.com>; 'Paul Hunt'
<paul.hunt1@virgin.net>; MG V8 List <mgb-v8@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:41 PM
Subject: RE: MGB v8 front brakes
> Is it possible Paul, and Paul that you each are talking
> about two different pads? Perhaps the Mintex pads that Moss
> USA distributes are different than the MGB V8 pads that the
> MGOC has?
>
> The Moss USA catalog does call the Mintex pads "U.K. spec.
> MGB-GT V8 pads [that will] fit stock calipers", presumably
> the 4 cylinder car stock calipers.
>
> Larry Hoy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: KILE, PAUL D [mailto:Paul.Kile@Aerojet.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:42 PM
> > To: 'Paul Hunt'; 'Larry Hoy'; MG V8 List
> > Subject: RE: MGB v8 front brakes
> >
> >
> > Moss USA claims the V-8 pads will fit the 4-cyl.
> > calipers, they sell a set
> > of Mintex V-8 pads as a comp. part. If I get
> > time in the next week or so, I
> > will test fit my V-8 pads into a 4-cyl. caliper
> > to be sure. I think the
> > "handed" nature of the pads refers to the
> > mounting of the pad material on
> > the backing plate, and the plates are set up so
> > they can only fit one way in
> > the caliper.
> > Cheers,
> > PK
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Hunt [mailto:paul.hunt1@virgin.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:13 PM
> > To: KILE, PAUL D; 'Larry Hoy'; MG V8 List
> > Subject: Re: MGB v8 front brakes
> >
> >
> > Paul - are you sure the V8 pads fit the
> > 4-cylinder car? Do you remember me
> > saying the the V8 pads are handed whereas the
> > 4-cyls are symetrical? By
> > handed I mean that in each pair there will be an
> > inner pad and and outer,
> > the difference is in the amount of metal at each
> > inner corner of the pad.
> > Why they are like this I cannot imagine, but they are.
> >
> > MGOC have something they call 'Comp V8' pads for
> > UKP45, I am pretty sure I
> > paid under 20 for my last lot.
> >
> > PaulH.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: KILE, PAUL D <Paul.Kile@Aerojet.com>
> > To: 'Larry Hoy' <larryhoy@prodigy.net>; MG V8
> > List <mgb-v8@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: MGB v8 front brakes
> >
> >
> > > Larry,
> > > I've got a Factory GT V-8 here in California,
> > so I can address some of
> > your
> > > questions. The thicker rotor was used to
> > dissipate more heat and to be
> > more
> > > resistant to brake fade (although I would have
> > thought a ventilated rotor
> > > would have done a better job, but the factory
> > was working on the cheap
> > when
> > > they designed the GT V-8).
> > >
> > > If you were to install the rotors on a 4-cyl
> > car, you would also need the
> > > V-8 calipers that allow for the thicker rotor.
> > These were an amalgam of
> > MGB
> > > and Triumph 2000 calipers, and can be
> > "fabricated" by combining one half
> > of
> > > the MG with one half of the Triumph units. You
> > of course need the
> > hardened
> > > bolts and the square section fluid seal if you
> > split calipers. I have
> > heard
> > > dire warnings from some folks that you need a
> > special jig to reassemble
> > > split calipers, but I have done it several
> > times with no problem (as long
> > as
> > > the bolts and seal are replaced).
> > >
> > > You will be hard pressed to find a set of
> > Triumph 2000 calipers here in
> > the
> > > States, they sold only a few of that weird
> > looking sedan over here. Of
> > > course, you could buy new V-8 caliper
> > assemblies in the UK, but I'm sure
> > > they are hellishly expensive (I was able to
> > rebuild mine). You are right
> > > that the V-8 pads will fit the 4-cylinder
> > calipers, and they give you a
> > > better swept area. I got mine (original
> > Lockheed pads) from either Brown
> > > and Gammons or Moss UK (I don't remember
> > which), and I paid about $35.00US
> > > for them. Moss USA sells Mintex competition
> > V-8 pads for around $80.00 a
> > > set, but they probably need to be warmed up
> > before they work effectively -
> > I
> > > don't want that on a street car.
> > >
> > > The rotor and caliper are a direct bolt on to
> > the MGB front uprights/hubs,
> > > although the rotor splash plate needs to be cut
> > away slightly to clear the
> > > V-8 caliper (I bought a set of replacement
> > splash plates, and they were
> > > obviously 4-cylinder units that had been cut
> > up). The brake lines are the
> > > same as late MGB with the spiral protector, but
> > I found that non-OEM
> > > Lockheed brake lines will not fit, the hex end
> > that screws into the
> > caliper
> > > is too fat to clear the caliper casting - make
> > sure you use OEM Lockheed
> > > lines. You also need longer cotter pins to hold
> > the pads into the caliper,
> > > these are not automatically included with brake
> > pad sets any more.
> > >
> > > As for whether the V-8 setup is worth it, IMHO
> > I think that a set of cross
> > > drilled MGB rotors coupled with the V-8 pads in
> > the 4-cyl. calipers will
> > > give you the same fade resistance as what the
> > Factory intended with the
> > > thicker rotors. Of course, I am going for
> > concours originality in my V-8,
> > so
> > > I am stuck with the original system.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Paul Kile
> > > 1974 Factory MGB-GT V-8 (Formerly The
> > Rustbucket, renamed The Phoenix)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Hoy [mailto:larryhoy@prodigy.net]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 10:07 PM
> > > To: MG V8 List
> > > Subject: MGB v8 front brakes
> > >
> > >
> > > This is not a new subject but I wasn't listening! Don't
> > > tell me you didn't "drift off" in school occasionally.
> > >
> > > Can any of you set me straight here? Tell me about the
> > > factory MGB V8 front brakes. Here's what I
> > think I know.
> > >
> > > The rotor is the same diameter as the 4 cyl
> > rotor, but it
> > > thicker. 1/2" vs. 3/8" (approx).
> > >
> > > The brake pads have a slightly larger foot print.
> > >
> > > V8 pads will fit the 4 cyl cars without modification.
> > >
> > > V8 rotors will not fit the 4 cyl cars unless
> > the calipers
> > > are modified.
> > >
> > > Here are the questions:
> > >
> > > What is the advantage of the thicker rotor?
> > >
> > > What is needed to install the thicker rotor?
> > >
> > > Would I get the same benefit by just using the V8 brake
> > > pads?
> > >
> > > And for our English friends are the V8 brake
> > pads available
> > > in England for less than 50 pounds?
> > >
> > > Larry Hoy
> > > http://pages.prodigy.net/larryhoy/
>
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