land-speed
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: welding/metal work

To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
Subject: Re: welding/metal work
From: Dave Dahlgren <ddahlgren@snet.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:31:36 -0500
I suspect most on this list think I sit around all day
thinking of ways to be controversial.. Works for me right
now. What I do is something most here have little interest
in as it is very expensive. Will just say that I have done
design work and prototype work for a lot of cars that win in
almost any venue you might want to pick other than F1 and
Indy. Not that I can't just the plate is full right now.
Thre slides I design are not new in theory, but in practice
are quite a bit different than what most might imagine at
times. make them for a whole bunch of different engines and
venues. They are the best and the price reflects it
unfortunately. A typical setup for a yates Ford or a 18
degree chevey is about 8k so something i suspect no one here
is interested in. Lsr racing is a hobby for me although I
approach it with the same attitude I have when involved with
pro efforts. To be candid I am sure anything that has been
done once has beeen done more than once with varing degrees
of sucess, so the is very little new, just done better at
times. In LSR did design work on 2 cars to date with a free
hand as to what to do an how to do it. 2 cars 3 records all
'off the trailer'. Both guys 2 club members. But it was just
fooling around to be honest.  Working on a little plan to
hit the F class records all 8 in the special construction
category. need right now to have the chassis guys work on
the 'Lakester/Streamliner' morphing kit so it can run in
both during the same event. I am doing the engine stuff
right now. Using current technology it will be 1100 hp in
F/BF  850 in F/BG  600 in F/F and 400 in F/G  The car
builder wants to run the N/A stuff to start I am wanting to
right to the blown stuff and be done with it.  And for all
the cost conscious out there it will be a low dollar deal
using a production based engine sort of.. Well they come in
a car you can buy in the US anyway. ran a similar engine
yesterday. made 810 at 7800 on gas and 20 lbs of boost. real
mild deal would have had another 200 if they let me turn it
up a bit and add the next 10 lbs of boost but it did what it
had to do and will run all day long.

Time for me to go make a few chips for the pro guys so i can
get some play time on my stuff. 
Dave

Keith Turk wrote:
> 
> Yeah Dave... I hear you.... I was discussing your latest Slide throttle set
> up with Brad yesterday ... Still don't think I got it right..  Your
> whittling skills go way beyond normalcy.... but you make a living at it....
> I expect that quality of work!!!  It's the design concepts which are so damn
> stunning....
> 
> I bet most folks here on the List don't really understand what you do
> Dave.... take a sec and explain what a Slide throttle is and does.... how
> you got involved with it....
> 
> Keith ( I understand your desire not to go into the Teams you tune for .....
> Trust me I understand that the Land speed racing thing really is a Hobby)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Dahlgren" <ddahlgren@snet.net>
> To: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> Cc: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; "Skip & Joyce Higginbotham"
> <saltrat@pro-blend.com>; <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: welding/metal work
> 
> > I have made a couple of metal chips LOL..
> > Dave
> >
> > Keith Turk wrote:
> > >
> > > Practice your Gas welding skills... cause that Tig is just about like it
> > > only better...
> > >
> > > Metal work.... Just curious how many of you are into Metal work?  I was
> > > Talking to Joe the other day when I ordered my master cut off....
> Anyway
> > > he was talking about a Motorized Bead roller and I think he has an
> English
> > > Wheel....  Who else out there is into the Metal smithing side of this?
> > >
> > > I'm not.... I am just fascinated with the skills of a fabricator...
> someone
> > > who can design something in his head or on paper and come up with it as
> a
> > > REAL usefull product....
> > >
> > > Keith ( yep I was wrong then I admitted it.. then I followed through
> with my
> > > own advice...hmmm )
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Skip & Joyce Higginbotham" <saltrat@pro-blend.com>;
> > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 12:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Roll cage welding
> > >
> > > > After all the input on welding, I was starting to
> > > > get very leary of my own welding.  I certainly
> > > > can't pass up an offer like this.  Skip, it'll be
> > > > late summer, or even next fall, but I'll be
> > > > calling on you.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Dick J
> > > >
> > > > --- Skip & Joyce Higginbotham
> > > > <saltrat@pro-blend.com> wrote:
> > > > > Dick,
> > > > > Rather than stick weld them I'd rather you
> > > > > brought the car over here to
> > > > > Bastrop and I'll TIG the cage for you.......or
> > > > > show you how to do it.
> > > > > Skip
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 08:03 AM 1/17/01 , you wrote:
> > > > > >That's what I was looking for.  Somebody who
> > > > > was
> > > > > >running with older technology welding.  I've
> > > > > got
> > > > > >all the tubes on my roadster cage bent and
> > > > > tacked
> > > > > >in place.  I would have to take a long day and
> > > > > >drive nearly five hundred miles to get the guy
> > > > > >who started the thing for me to finish weld
> > > > > it.
> > > > > >I've been leaning towards just running the
> > > > > beads
> > > > > >myself with my buzz box. I keep thinking:
> > > > > "This
> > > > > >ain't no 200 mph car.  It's prolly not even
> > > > > going
> > > > > >to see 150."  The rules only require a roll
> > > > > bar,
> > > > > >so the cage is just frosting (the kind I like
> > > > > -
> > > > > >-safety stuff).  I dunno, I'll lay down some
> > > > > >practice beads in the spring - if they look
> > > > > good,
> > > > > >I'll go after the roll cage.  If they look
> > > > > >crappy, I'll pack a picnic lunch and make the
> > > > > >drive to south Louisiana.  Could take another
> > > > > >look at Phil Landry's car anyhow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >--- Richard Fox <v4gr@rcn.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> Dick; My Vega cage was done with my buzz box
> > > > > >> and looks OK to me. But I
> > > > > >> haven't tested it yet and hope not to. Rich
> > > > > Fox
> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > > > >> To: The Butters Family <bbutters@dmi.net>;
> > > > > >> ARDUNDOUG@aol.com
> > > > > >> <ARDUNDOUG@aol.com>;
> > > > > land-speed@autox.team.net
> > > > > >> <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > > >> Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 02:40 PM
> > > > > >> Subject: List Police - Back to LSR !
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >Let's not beat the poor guy to death.  I'm
> > > > > >> sure
> > > > > >> >that by now he get's the idea that the post
> > > > > >> was
> > > > > >> >inappropriate.  He is into LSR, and we are
> > > > > >> into
> > > > > >> >LSR, so let's drop all of this and get back
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> >LSR.  I don't think there are many among us
> > > > > >> who
> > > > > >> >haven't made some off-color remark, at some
> > > > > >> time
> > > > > >> >in our life, only to realize a second too
> > > > > >> late,
> > > > > >> >that a wife, preacher, teacher, or somebody
> > > > > >> was
> > > > > >> >present to make our face turn red and wish
> > > > > we
> > > > > >> >could hide under a rock.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >So, about this welding stuff.  Back in the
> > > > > >> olden
> > > > > >> >days, were roll cages and chassis welded up
> > > > > >> more
> > > > > >> >with gas welding, or with buzz boxes?
> > > > > i.e.,
> > > > > >> >since it ain't gonna be mig or tig, which
> > > > > of
> > > > > >> my
> > > > > >> >antiquated devices should I be using for
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> >kind of work?  I personally like working
> > > > > with
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> >torch, I can melt that stuff right to the
> > > > > >> point
> > > > > >> >of burning through, then start feeding rod.
> > > > >
> > > > > >> With
> > > > > >> >the buzz box, I sometimes burn holes, then
> > > > > >> have
> > > > > >> >to get the torch out and start melting in
> > > > > >> order
> > > > > >> >to fill them back up.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >=====
> > > > > >> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > >> >*         Dick J          *
> > > > > >> >*    (In East Texas)      *
> > > > > >> >*         # 729           *
> > > > > >> >*     C/GRS   E/STR       *
> > > > > >> >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > >> >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo!
> > > > > Mail.
> > > > > >> >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >=====
> > > > > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > >*         Dick J          *
> > > > > >*    (In East Texas)      *
> > > > > >*         # 729           *
> > > > > >*     C/GRS   E/STR       *
> > > > > >* * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> > > > > >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
> > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
> > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>