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Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a =
nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of =
difficulty.
=20
-----------------------------------
All the best,
=20
Al Fuller
=20
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Scholz =
via Healeys
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 10:26 PM
To: HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
=20
I love my LS1 swap. It was a lot of work. Aluminum dual passage Wizard =
radiator with 15=E2=80=9D spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat =
index and car stays right at 195 degrees. Lots of work to get the =
alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit. =
Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the =
electric radiator fan and my water pump. Had to cut the steering shaft =
and u joint. Works great. =20
Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip =
diff and it works perfectly. 72=E2=80=9D Daytona wire wheels with 205 =
wide tires. Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much =
lighter it was up in the air by 2-3=E2=80=9D. It rides and handles so =
well. My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn=E2=80=99t worth as much stock =
as a BJ8. I feel my value went up. =20
I love my reliability and the torque is amazing. Car is so much fun to =
slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go. I would never go back to the =
heavy iron block. I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been =
Healey=E2=80=99s first choice if GM would have worked with him. =20
=20
Sent from my iPhone=20
Chris Scholz OD
On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58=E2=80=AFPM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com =
=EF=BB=BF=20
A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as =
"dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making =
engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells =
so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place. It's all the =
other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical =
system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, =
etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but =
you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more. You =
can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission =
into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264 The Ford =
5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a =
huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard =
with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very =
helpful. I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine =
rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear =
end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires. Much more power than =
that and those parts will start braking. A good engine swap is really a =
joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a =
really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.=20
=20
My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try =
a replacement Healey 6.
=20
Best of Luck,
Rick
=20
On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11=E2=80=AFPM <rfbegani@gmail.com =
Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement. Chris just made that =
suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans. My Bother is a retired GM =
mechanic, and he agrees. Did you do the exchange? What engine trans =
etc. did you use? All options are on the table.
=20
Bob
=20
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
=20
Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. =
Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot. Maybe trying to =
find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group =
of choices. Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a =
few years ago for a donation to our club charity. I'd put a wanted ad =
in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone =
out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, =
maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did =
and put a V8 in there!
=20
Best of luck,
Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
=20
On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12=E2=80=AFAM <rfbegani@gmail.com =
Gentlemen:
=20
I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 =
Austin-Healey. Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the =
oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove =
it back slowly. Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the =
rod and crank caps and bearings. My mechanic friend said you got lucky =
the crank may only need polishing and new bearings. So, I packed and =
marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with =
piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a =
larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage. =
We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the =
engine. Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the =
engine so he would have everything in one place. I looked around but =
could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched =
in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this =
group what I can do?
=20
1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are =
not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be =
line bored on the engine.
2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main =
bearing caps is almost impossible.
3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
=20
My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I =
would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
=20
Please give me your advice.
=20
Best regards,
=20
Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8
=20
=20
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? =
I think I heard that was a nice balance between weight savings, =
increased power and level of difficulty.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>-------------=
----------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Al =
Fuller<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris =
Scholz via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 9, 2024 10:26 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine =
Rebuild failure<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I love my =
LS1 swap. It was a lot of work. Aluminum dual passage Wizard =
radiator with 15=E2=80=9D spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat =
index and car stays right at 195 degrees. Lots of work to get the =
alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit. =
Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between =
the electric radiator fan and my water pump. Had to cut the =
steering shaft and u joint. Works great. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Like Rick, I have the stock =
3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly. =
72=E2=80=9D Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires. =
Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up =
in the air by 2-3=E2=80=9D. It rides and handles so well. My =
car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn=E2=80=99t worth as much stock as a BJ8. =
I feel my value went up. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I love my reliability and the torque is amazing. =
Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go. =
I would never go back to the heavy iron block. I feel this =
an aluminum V8 would have been Healey=E2=80=99s first choice if GM would =
have worked with him. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris Scholz OD<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM, HealeyRick =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>=EF=BB=BF</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>A V8 swap is nothing to be =
undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". =
That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission =
mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit =
with the exhaust headers in place. It's all the other stuff you =
need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, =
radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. =
It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also =
knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more. You can =
see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission =
into my BJ7 here: <a =
href=3D"http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264";>http://forum.british=
v8.org/read.php?13,8264</a> The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the =
Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS =
motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now =
and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful. I did =
about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body =
fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 =
gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires. Much more power than that and =
those parts will start braking. A good engine swap is really a =
joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a =
really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My first choice if you don't have that "Need for =
Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey =
6.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Best of Luck,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Funny you =
should suggest a v8 replacement. Chris just made that suggestion =
to install an LS1 with GM Trans. My Bother is a retired GM =
mechanic, and he agrees. Did you do the exchange? What =
engine trans etc. did you use? All options are on the =
table.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>=
HealeyRick <<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, =
February 9, 2024 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sorry to =
hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the =
main bearing caps you're in a tough spot. Maybe trying to find a =
BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of =
choices. Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a =
few years ago for a donation to our club charity. I'd put a wanted =
ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope =
someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David =
Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I =
did and put a V8 in there!<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Best of =
luck,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Rick =
Neville aka "HealeyRick"<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Fri, Feb =
9, 2024 at 11:12<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Gentlemen:</spa=
n><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I arrived back =
to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey. Drove =
it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was =
O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly. =
Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank =
caps and bearings. My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank =
may only need polishing and new bearings. So, I packed and marked =
each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston =
rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger =
plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage. We =
towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the =
engine. Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from =
the engine so he would have everything in one place. I looked =
around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it =
got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am =
asking this group what I can do?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><ol start=3D1 type=3D1><li =
class=3Dm844539055149806779m-5840361332195764497msolistparagraph =
style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I am told the =
engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and =
even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the =
engine.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3Dm844539055149806779m-5840361332195764497msolistparagraph =
style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I am told that =
finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is =
almost impossible.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3Dm844539055149806779m-5840361332195764497msolistparagraph =
style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Finding an =
engine to be rebuild might be possible.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My engine was =
rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to =
find a way of fixing the existing engine, if =
possible.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Please give me =
your advice.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Best =
regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Bob =
Begani</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>67 =
Austin-Healey BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> </span><o=
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