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Re: [Healeys] Low Tension wire

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low Tension wire
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I looks like AH spares has the correct wire..I ordered it and returned the =
Moss wire..they had no clue as to what I was talking about.
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Low tension wire (rct2bnc@aol.com)
   2. Glycol in oil (Roger Grace)
   3. Re: Glycol in oil (Kees Oudesluijs)
   4. Re: Low tension wire (S and T Miller)
   5. Re: Glycol in oil (Bob Spidell)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 03:43:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: "rct2bnc@aol.com" <rct2bnc@aol.com>
To: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>,  S and T Miller
        <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire

 S & T
I was told by one of our local Tucson British Car Club members that it is c=
alled "test-lead" wire. Extremely flexible 22 gauge stranded copper with a =
cloth cover. I have seen spools of it for sale overseas but not here.
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8
    On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 06:22:33 AM MST, S and T Miller <stmi=
ller96@hotmail.com> wrote:

  Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distributor low =
tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and type of =
wire as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibility.??
I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd rather hav=
e a length to keep on hand to make my own.?
TY, Shawn
The Millers
?
"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:15:17 -0800
From: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Glycol in oil
Message-ID:
        <CALPtYiN8VYpkvp5fS_PzijO_tz=3DTmfD9F8i-94dGFia+V3n0JA@mail.gmail.c=
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67 BJ8
Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover
and near oil filler.
Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no
water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
removed. Silly me.
So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area
that others may have encountered ?
 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
Remove head ?
Thoughts and ideas please
rg
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:58:58 +0100
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil

Sounds like a head gasket, cracked cylinder head or an internal crack in
the block. Possibly incorrectly torqued down head so start re-torquing
may help but I am not very optimistic.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 14-11-2023 om 05:15 schreef Roger Grace:
> 67 BJ8
> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve
> cover and near oil filler.
> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting
> no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
> removed. Silly me.
> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit
> area? that others may have encountered ?
> ?Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
> Remove head ?
> Thoughts and ideas please
> rg
>

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:22:36 +0000
From: S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>
To: "rct2bnc@aol.com" <rct2bnc@aol.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net"
        <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire
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        <PH7P221MB100708C7BABDBCA1326CDD44D4B2A@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.=
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Thank you for that response. Doing some light digging on your response it s=
ounds like it could be very similar to 50's era electric guitar wire. Seems=
 like most state pre- tinned wire, so I wonder it that would make it stiffe=
r than the original distributor lead wires. ?


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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From: rct2bnc@aol.com <rct2bnc@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:43 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>; S and T Miller <stmill=
er96@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire

S & T

I was told by one of our local Tucson British Car Club members that it is c=
alled "test-lead" wire. Extremely flexible 22 gauge stranded copper with a =
cloth cover. I have seen spools of it for sale overseas but not here.

Ben Cohen
BN1, BN7, BJ8

On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 06:22:33 AM MST, S and T Miller <stmiller=
96@hotmail.com> wrote:


Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distributor low te=
nsion cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and type of wi=
re as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibility.

I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd rather hav=
e a length to keep on hand to make my own.
TY, Shawn

The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 06:37:50 -0800
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil

The blocks have areas with less metal between oil and coolant passages
that are known to rust through. I don't know how much material, if any,
'hot-tanking' removes, but there is likely some variance in the castings
to begin with.

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On 11/14/2023 12:58 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote:
>
> Sounds like a head gasket, cracked cylinder head or an internal crack
> in the block. Possibly incorrectly torqued down head so start
> re-torquing may help but I am not very optimistic.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 14-11-2023 om 05:15 schreef Roger Grace:
>> 67 BJ8
>> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
>> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve
>> cover and near oil filler.
>> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
>> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
>> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting
>> no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
>> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
>> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
>> removed. Silly me.
>> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit
>> area? that others may have encountered ?
>> ?Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
>> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
>> Remove head ?
>> Thoughts and ideas please
>> rg
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&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Re: Low tension wire (rct2bnc@aol.com)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Glycol in oil (Roger Grace)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. Re: Glycol in oil (Kees Oudesluijs)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. Re: Low tension wire (S and T Miller)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: Glycol in oil (Bob Spidell)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 03:43:33 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: &quot;rct2bnc@aol.com&quot; &lt;rct2bnc@aol.com&gt;<br>
To: &quot;healeys@autox.team.net&quot; &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;,&nbsp=
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;stmiller96@hotmail.com&gt;<b=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
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&nbsp;S &amp; T<br>
I was told by one of our local Tucson British Car Club members that it is c=
alled &quot;test-lead&quot; wire. Extremely flexible 22 gauge stranded copp=
er with a cloth cover. I have seen spools of it for sale overseas but not h=
ere.<br>
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 06:22:33 AM MST, S and=
 T Miller &lt;stmiller96@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:&nbsp;
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&nbsp; Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distributor=
 low tension cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and typ=
e of wire as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibility.=
??<br>
I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd rather hav=
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 20:15:17 -0800<br>
From: Roger Grace &lt;roggrace@telus.net&gt;<br>
To: Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Glycol in oil<br>
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67 BJ8<br>
Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.<br>
Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover<=
br>
and near oil filler.<br>
Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr<br>
Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi<br>
Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no<br>
water found ... assume gets burnt off ?<br>
Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently<br>
installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being<br>
removed. Silly me.<br>
So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area<br>
that others may have encountered ?<br>
&nbsp;Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?<br>
Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.<br>
Remove head ?<br>
Thoughts and ideas please<br>
rg<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 09:58:58 +0100<br>
From: Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt;<br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil<br>
d&quot;<br>
<br>
Sounds like a head gasket, cracked cylinder head or an internal crack in <b=
r>
the block. Possibly incorrectly torqued down head so start re-torquing <br>
may help but I am not very optimistic.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
Op 14-11-2023 om 05:15 schreef Roger Grace:<br>
&gt; 67 BJ8<br>
&gt; Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.<br>
&gt; Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve <=
br>
&gt; cover and near oil filler.<br>
&gt; Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr<br>
&gt; Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi<br>
&gt; Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting <=
br>
&gt; no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?<br>
&gt; Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently <b=
r>
&gt; installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being <b=
r>
&gt; removed. Silly me.<br>
&gt; So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit <br=
>
&gt; area? that others may have encountered ?<br>
&gt; ?Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?<br>
&gt; Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.<br>
&gt; Remove head ?<br>
&gt; Thoughts and ideas please<br>
&gt; rg<br>
&gt;<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 14:22:36 +0000<br>
From: S and T Miller &lt;stmiller96@hotmail.com&gt;<br>
To: &quot;rct2bnc@aol.com&quot; &lt;rct2bnc@aol.com&gt;, &quot;healeys@auto=
x.team.net&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<b=
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
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CDD44D4B2A@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
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Thank you for that response. Doing some light digging on your response it s=
ounds like it could be very similar to 50's era electric guitar wire. Seems=
 like most state pre- tinned wire, so I wonder it that would make it stiffe=
r than the original distributor
 lead wires. ?<br>
<br>
<br>
The Millers<br>
<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<br>
________________________________<br>
From: rct2bnc@aol.com &lt;rct2bnc@aol.com&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:43 PM<br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; S and T Miller &=
lt;stmiller96@hotmail.com&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Low tension wire<br>
<br>
S &amp; T<br>
<br>
I was told by one of our local Tucson British Car Club members that it is c=
alled &quot;test-lead&quot; wire. Extremely flexible 22 gauge stranded copp=
er with a cloth cover. I have seen spools of it for sale overseas but not h=
ere.<br>
<br>
Ben Cohen<br>
BN1, BN7, BJ8<br>
<br>
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 06:22:33 AM MST, S and T Miller &lt;stmil=
ler96@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
Does anyone know the specifications and/or source of the distributor low te=
nsion cloth covered black wire lead? Interested in the gauge and type of wi=
re as original, because of the look and its exceptional flexibility.<br>
<br>
I do realize that there are a few sources for the leads, but I'd rather hav=
e a length to keep on hand to make my own.<br>
TY, Shawn<br>
<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 06:37:50 -0800<br>
From: Bob Spidell &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;<br>
To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Glycol in oil<br>
d&quot;<br>
<br>
The blocks have areas with less metal between oil and coolant passages <br>
that are known to rust through. I don't know how much material, if any, <br=
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&gt;<br>
&gt; Sounds like a head gasket, cracked cylinder head or an internal crack =
<br>
&gt; in the block. Possibly incorrectly torqued down head so start <br>
&gt; re-torquing may help but I am not very optimistic.<br>
&gt; Kees Oudesluijs<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Op 14-11-2023 om 05:15 schreef Roger Grace:<br>
&gt;&gt; 67 BJ8<br>
&gt;&gt; Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.<br>
&gt;&gt; Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside val=
ve <br>
&gt;&gt; cover and near oil filler.<br>
&gt;&gt; Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr<br>
&gt;&gt; Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi<br>
&gt;&gt; Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesti=
ng <br>
&gt;&gt; no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?<br>
&gt;&gt; Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recentl=
y <br>
&gt;&gt; installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air bein=
g <br>
&gt;&gt; removed. Silly me.<br>
&gt;&gt; So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit=
 <br>
&gt;&gt; area? that others may have encountered ?<br>
&gt;&gt; ?Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?<br>
&gt;&gt; Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.<br>
&gt;&gt; Remove head ?<br>
&gt;&gt; Thoughts and ideas please<br>
&gt;&gt; rg<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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