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Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ever!
From: Tom Felts via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 06:18:28 -0400 (EDT)
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I believe resistors are not used when you are using a Pertronix. Otherwise,=
 yes.=20

Tom=20


From: "sbyers--- via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
To: josef-eckert@t-online.de, "Kees Oudesluijs" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>, "H=
ealey, Forum" <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:05:04 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ev=
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My =E2=80=9966 BJ8 must be unique, then. Although not original, it does hav=
e a ballast resistor. Also, my 1969 Dodge Charger (built 30 January 1969 - =
original owner) has had one from new.=20



Steve Byers=20

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AHCA Delegate at Large=20

Havelock, NC USA=20




From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of josef-eckert---=
 via Healeys=20
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 2:40 PM=20
To: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>; Healey, Forum <healeys@autox.t=
eam.net>=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown problem ev=
er!=20




Don`t confuse. There is no ballast resistor in the wiring of any Austin-Hea=
ley. Ballst resistors in coil wiring were invented in the 1970s.=20

The coil should have 3 Ohm primary resistance.=20

Josef Eckert=20

Germany=20







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er!=20

Datum: 2023-09-17T20:24:12+0200=20

Von: "Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys" < [ mailto:healeys@autox.team.net | heal=
eys@autox.team.net ] >=20

An: " [ mailto:healeys@autox.team.net | healeys@autox.team.net ] " < [ mail=
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Sounds like a faulty coil or a bad/broken wire somewhere. Also check the en=
gine earth strap and battery switch and connections. What coil have you fit=
ted. If the ballast resistor (wire) is still in place it should be a 12V ca=
. 1,5 Ohm coil to be used with a resistor or a 12V ca. 3Ohm coil to be used=
 without resistor.=20


Op 17-9-2023 om 16:23 schreef Tom Felts via Healeys:=20





Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and suddenly she shut down. L=
et it sit for a while and she would start and run for a while--then shut do=
wn again. I tried many fixes which I will list below. Several times after t=
he fixes she went for miles and miles and I thought I had "fixed" it. Nope-=
----yesterday----it was AAA tow time once again (3 times this year).=20





The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or f=
or a car to pass.=20





So here is what I have tried: * new coil * new voltage regulator * new fuel=
 pump * New ignition switch * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls =
and cleaned them (no debris inside) * Pulled the distributor plate out and =
cleaned and oiled it * disconnected the wire leading from the battery cutof=
f switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch * replace=
d the Pertronix with a new one * checked all the sparkplug wires to make su=
re they were on properly * replaced the distributor rotor *Replaced the dis=
tributor cap . * checked the small ground wire inside the distributor to ma=
ke sure it was attached properly.=20





All this----and STILL o joy. I'm really out of ideas at this point. If anyo=
ne has any ideas for me to check please share them.=20





Thanks=20


Tom=20




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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>I believe resistors are not used when you a=
re using a Pertronix. Otherwise, yes.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></=
div><div>Tom</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER_=
_"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADERS__"><b>From: </b>"sbyers--- via Healeys" &l=
t;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>To: </b>josef-eckert@t-online.de, "Kees =
Oudesluijs" &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt;, "Healey, Forum" &lt;healeys@auto=
x.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, September 17, 2023 9:05:04 PM<br><b>=
Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing engine shutdown proble=
m ever!<br></div><div><br><style><!--
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--></style></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div class=3D"WordSec=
tion1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My =E2=80=9966 BJ8 must be unique, then.&nbsp=
; Although not original, it does have a ballast resistor.&nbsp; Also, my 19=
69 Dodge Charger (built 30 January 1969 - original owner) has had one from =
new.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Steve Byers=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">BJ8 Registry</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">AHCA Dele=
gate at Large</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Havelock, NC&nbsp; USA</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e=
1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Heal=
eys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>josef-eckert=
--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 17, 2023 2:40 PM<br><b>To=
:</b> Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt;; Healey, Forum &lt;heal=
eys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] The single most con=
fusing engine shutdown problem ever!</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin:0in"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family=
:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black">Don`t confuse. There is no ballast resis=
tor in the wiring of any Austin-Healey. Ballst resistors in coil wiring wer=
e invented in the 1970s.</span></p><p style=3D"margin:0in"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black">The coil should=
 have 3 Ohm primary resistance.</span></p><p style=3D"margin:0in"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black">Josef Ec=
kert</span></p><p style=3D"margin:0in"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-f=
amily:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black">Germany</span></p><p style=3D"margi=
n:0in"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color=
:black">&nbsp;</span></p><p style=3D"margin:0in">&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"marg=
in:0in">&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin:0in">-----Original-Nachricht-----</p><=
p style=3D"margin:0in">Betreff: Re: [Healeys] The single most confusing eng=
ine shutdown problem ever!</p><p style=3D"margin:0in">Datum: 2023-09-17T20:=
24:12+0200</p><p style=3D"margin:0in">Von: "Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys" &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow noopener noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</p><p style=3D"margi=
n:0in">An: "<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>" &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</p><p style=3D"margin:0in">&n=
bsp;</p><p style=3D"margin:0in">&nbsp;</p><p style=3D"margin:0in">&nbsp;</p=
><div><p style=3D"margin:0in"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:'ari=
al' , sans-serif;color:black">Sounds like a faulty coil or a bad/broken wir=
e somewhere. Also check the engine earth strap and battery switch and conne=
ctions. What coil have you fitted. If the ballast resistor (wire) is still =
in place it should be a 12V ca. 1,5 Ohm coil to be used with a resistor or =
a 12V ca. 3Ohm coil to be used without resistor.</span></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;c=
olor:black">Op 17-9-2023 om 16:23 schreef Tom Felts via Healeys:</span></p>=
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' ,=
 sans-serif;color:black">Was our driving a while back, engine purring, and =
suddenly she shut down.&nbsp; Let it sit for a while and she would start an=
d run for a while--then shut down again.&nbsp; I tried many fixes which I w=
ill list below.&nbsp; Several times after the fixes she went for miles and =
miles and I thought I had "fixed" it.&nbsp; Nope-----yesterday----it was AA=
A tow time once again (3 times this year).&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' ,=
 sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black=
">The last 2 shutdown times came when she was idling waiting for a light or=
 for a car to pass.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black">So here is what I have tried:&nbs=
p; * new coil&nbsp; * new voltage regulator&nbsp; * new fuel pump&nbsp; * N=
ew ignition switch&nbsp; * Blew out the fuel lines * pulled float bowls and=
 cleaned them (no debris inside)&nbsp; * Pulled the distributor plate out a=
nd cleaned and oiled it&nbsp; * disconnected the wire leading from the batt=
ery cutoff switch to the coil. * bypassed the entire battery cutoff switch =
* replaced the Pertronix with a new one&nbsp; * checked all the sparkplug w=
ires to make sure they were on properly&nbsp; *&nbsp; replaced the distribu=
tor rotor *Replaced the distributor cap . * checked the small ground wire i=
nside the distributor to make sure it was attached properly.</span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'ar=
ial' , sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color=
:black">&nbsp;All this----and STILL o joy.&nbsp; I'm really out of ideas at=
 this point.&nbsp; If anyone has any ideas for me to check please share the=
m.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' ,=
 sans-serif;color:black">Thanks</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:'arial' , sans-serif;color:black=
">Tom</span></p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
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