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Re: [Healeys] fuel pump

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump
From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:31:53 +0200
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Leaving the ignition on will definitely drain the battery but may also 
kill the coil and electronic ignition or electronic SU-fuel pump, not 
sure about the points SU-fuel pump but I wouldn't be surprised.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 30-7-2023 om 20:57 schreef alfuller194@gmail.com:
> Yes, Bob - the ignitions were left on...
>
> I agree that a stock Healey should have no draw when not running. I too leave 
> mine for weeks to months with the battery master 'on', and it starts right 
> back up.
>
> Unfortunately, they put these cars in the container with the ignition keys 
> left 'on'.
>
> ----------------
> All the best,
>
> Al Fuller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2023 7:00 AM
> To: alfuller194@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump
>
> That's kinda odd; did they leave GPSs or some other electronics on?
> Nothing on a stock Healey should be drawing current with the key off.
> I've left the cutoff 'on' for months without draining a battery.
>
> 'Modern' cars are a different story; they'll run a battery down in a few 
> weeks, with anti-theft, remote unlock, etc. drawing current continuously. 
> Also, I think battery quality has gone downhill overall since most are now 
> produced in Mexico.
>
>
> On 7/29/2023 9:44 PM, alfuller194@gmail.com wrote:
>> Humm - low battery causing the pump to effectively 'stall' is
>> something to think about...
>>
>> On a related note, I have my fingers crossed for my own battery!  The
>> car is due to be shipped back from Norway any day now, returning from
>> the European Healey Meet. When the cars arrived in Norway in early
>> June, several had ignition switches left in the 'on' position and the
>> battery master switch also left on. The result was several of the cars
>> needed new batteries before going anywhere.  This was despite most
>> everyone having printed 'starting and storing instructions' in the car
>> calling for the battery master switch to be used.  Like I said - fingers 
>> crossed...
>>
>> As to the Healey Meet - great roads! One of my favorites is
>> Trollstigen ['Troll's Ladder']. For a sample, see:
>> https://www.lifeinnorway.net/trollstigen-norway/
>>
>> ----------------
>> All the best,
>>
>> Al Fuller
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob
>> Spidell
>> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 7:00 PM
>> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel pump
>>
>> Conceivably--note: 'conceivably'--less than 12V at the pump would
>> leave the electromagnet charged but unable to fully retract the
>> diaphragm and open the points (or electronic circuit) to stop current
>> flow. You'd still have current flowing through the electromagnet,
>> which could overheat and, well, fry.
>>
>>
>> On 7/28/2023 2:37 PM, alfuller194@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Jim - I don't recall those messages, so maybe someone with more
>>> knowledge than me can respond.
>>>
>>> That said, I don't see how a low or dead battery would damage a fuel
>>> pump. I would think the pump would see just the circuit as unpowered
>>> and not work, but not suffer for the experience...
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Al Fuller
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
>>> healeymanjim
>>> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2023 10:47 AM
>>> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Healeys] fuel pump
>>>
>>> i have seen messages on the list where folks have stated that low
>>> battery can cause problems with solid state fuel pump.  the battery i
>>> replaced was so weak it would not turn the motor over even with plugs
>>> removed.  any info on this anyplace on the internet?
>>>
>>
>
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