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To: "'Harold Manifold'" <manifold@telus.net>, <warthodson@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater query
From: John Spaur via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 14:10:19 -0700
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When I restored my BT7 I put in a high efficiency core, for rows I =
believe. Nothing was difficult. The top and bottom will accept the core =
and almost any competent radiator shop can do the work.

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One caveat, I had to flatten the inside of the rail and bend it to =
accept the wider core. Again, that was not difficult. It is hard to see =
the modification.

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John

62=E2=80=99 BT7

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Harold Manifold
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:40 AM
To: warthodson@aol.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater query

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Gary,

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I had the same options when restoring my Mk1 BT7. I looked into aluminum =
radiators extensively to see what the benefits might be. Contrary to =
popular belief it is not better heat transfer properties of the =
materials. The copper radiator fins on the original Healey radiators =
have much better thermal conductivity than aluminum. The advantage of =
the aluminum radiator is the manufacturing process and the formability =
of modern aluminum. The result is more tube and fin area. I estimated a =
Wizard radiator has about 25% more fin area than the stock radiator. The =
greater the fin area the better to expel heat.

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Having said that, there is a third option which is to replace the =
original core with a high efficiency core. This retains the stock look =
of the engine bay and will be close in performance to the aluminum =
radiator. The high efficiency core option will be more expensive than a =
Wizard radiator and the difficulty is finding a radiator shop that can =
access the core can do the work.

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This website has a good overview: https://usradiator.com/cores

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Harold

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:12=E2=80=AFAM warthodson--- via Healeys =

My 100 radiator is in need of some rehabilitation. It either needs to be =
boiled out, which would not replace some of the damaged fins, or =
re-cored. I am leaning toward re-coring but that would be more =
expensive, which leads to the aluminum option. =20

Besides price what are the pros vs. cons of these options? Does anyone =
know if re-cored 100 radiator is more efficient than an aluminum =
radiator?

Gary H

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On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 09:02:21 PM CDT, BJ8Healeys via Healeys =

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I live in the sunny South (90=C2=B0 F and 90% relative humidity today) =
and I used to refer to my BJ8=E2=80=99s heater as the =E2=80=9Cauxiliary =
engine cooler=E2=80=9D; but I no longer have to use  it that way since I =
had a modern core installed in the radiator and added a 190=C2=B0 =
sleeved thermostat that I bought from Kees.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>When I restored my BT7 I put in a high efficiency core, for rows I =
believe. Nothing was difficult. The top and bottom will accept the core =
and almost any competent radiator shop can do the =
work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>One caveat, I had to flatten the inside of the rail and bend it to =
accept the wider core. Again, that was not difficult. It is hard to see =
the modification.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>62=E2=80=99 BT7<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Harold Manifold<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:40 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> warthodson@aol.com<br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Heater =
query<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Gary,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
had the same options when restoring my Mk1 BT7. I looked into aluminum =
radiators extensively to see what the benefits might be. Contrary to =
popular belief it is not better heat transfer properties of the =
materials. The copper radiator fins on the original Healey radiators =
have much better thermal conductivity&nbsp;than aluminum. The advantage =
of the aluminum radiator is the manufacturing&nbsp;process and the =
formability of modern aluminum. The result is more tube and fin area. I =
estimated a Wizard radiator has about 25% more fin area than the =
stock&nbsp;radiator. The greater the fin area the better to =
expel&nbsp;heat.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Having said that, there is a third&nbsp;option which =
is to replace the original core with a high efficiency core. This =
retains the stock look of the engine bay and will be close in =
performance to the aluminum radiator. The high efficiency core option =
will be more expensive&nbsp;than a Wizard radiator and the difficulty is =
finding a radiator shop that can access the core can do the =
work.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This website has a good overview:&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://usradiator.com/cores";>https://usradiator.com/cores</a><o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Harold<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:12=E2=80=AFAM warthodson--- via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autoxteam.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>My 100 =
radiator is in need of some rehabilitation. It either needs to be boiled =
out, which would not replace some of the damaged fins, or re-cored. I am =
leaning toward re-coring but that would be more expensive, which leads =
to the aluminum option.&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Besides =
price what are the pros vs. cons of these options? Does anyone know if =
re-cored 100 radiator is more efficient than an aluminum =
radiator?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Gary =
H<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"m_-2269323291578053413ydp70f1316yahoo_quoted_9797011705"><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 09:02:21 PM CDT, BJ8Healeys via Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
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A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3D"m_-2269323291578053413ydp70f1316yiv6075989256"><div><div><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>I live in the sunny South (90=C2=B0 F and 90% relative humidity =
today) and I used to refer to my BJ8=E2=80=99s heater as the =
=E2=80=9Cauxiliary engine cooler=E2=80=9D; but I no longer have to =
use&nbsp; it that way since I had a modern core installed in the =
radiator and added a 190=C2=B0 sleeved thermostat that I bought from =
Kees.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>Steve Byers</span><span =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#1F497=
D'>Havelock, NC&nbsp; USA</span><span =
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