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Hi Bob -
I assembled it all and the oil turned dark very fast, so I pulled it all
apart and I don't recall all the particulars but something about how it was
all set up it had a direct stream of flow past the filter.... I switched
to the side mounted filter which was a big improvement, oil stayed clean
for at least 1,000 miles before start turning color.
Cheers,
Alan
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Alan,
>
> How did you determine the filter was bypassing the oil?
>
> Bob
>
> On 11/8/2022 3:23 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi Steve -
>
> I had one of those as well but I discovered it was improperly designed an=
d
> the oil completely bypassed the filter in operation. Not sure if it=E2=
=80=99s
> because it was designed for a puralator and I had a teclemite or vice
> versatile, who knows.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 11:36 PM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I got one of Moss=E2=80=99s first =E2=80=9Cspin on=E2=80=9D adapters in =
the late =E2=80=9880s because of
>> the mess caused by the original canister, and the need to special-order =
the
>> replacement cartridges. This adapter holds the spin-on filter parallel =
to
>> the centerline of the car, with the aft end of the filter lower than the
>> front. Changing oil is easy and causes no mess. I don=E2=80=99t know i=
f this type
>> of adapter is still available, but the one I have is the only one I=E2=
=80=99ve ever
>> seen. All the others hold the filter perpendicular and level to the blo=
ck
>> and seem to be sized for a smaller filter than what I use.
>> I have several Wix 51085 filters, and all except one (China) are marked
>> =E2=80=9CMade in USA=E2=80=9D. I remember back in the =E2=80=9860s that=
I used to pass the Wix
>> plant in Gastonia, NC about once a week.
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Byers
>>
>> HBJ8L/36666
>>
>> BJ8 Registry
>>
>> AHCA Delegate at Large
>>
>> Havelock, NC USA
>>
>> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *M=
ichael
>> Oritt via Healeys
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 8, 2022 7:26 AM
>> *To:* Alan Seigrist
>> *Cc:* Healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wix 51516XP oil filter
>>
>>
>>
>> I use K&N 2009's which fasten to the engine laterally and wish I could
>> find a spin-on adaptor that has the filter facing (open-end) up simply
>> because it is much easier to avoid a mess.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 10:32 PM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> yes generally if the filter is pointed down, the bigger the better...
>> usually the wider it is is more preferable to the longer it is.
>>
>>
>> But for filter conversions on our healeys, they normally sit sideways so
>> you gotta get it with the oil bypass valve
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 9:52 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> As a corollary to this topic, a question=E2=80=A6..
>>
>> If one has two filters identical in all respects except size, would the
>> bigger of the two be better? ie, does size matter?
>>
>> I only ask because I have latterly been using large filters, Mann
>> W1130/1. Made in Germany.:-
>>
>> MANN-FILTER Online Catalog Europe - Product Details Oil Filter W 1130/1
>> <https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/eng/catalog/MANN-FILTER%20Katalog%20=
Europa/Oil%20Filter/W%201130~1>
>>
>> Impossible with the original Lucas starter.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jean
>> Caron
>> *Sent:* 07 November 2022 20:10
>> *To:* fsufan1952@yahoo.com; Warren Dietz <flyhihealey@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Healeys@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Wix 51516XP oil filter
>>
>>
>>
>> Don,
>>
>> It makes absolutely no difference where the filter is made unless the
>> manufacturer specifies different material in its manufacturing process.
>> Absolutely every step of the fabrication is automated and made by robots
>> except the step of lining up the bottom part of the filter and I doubt =
an
>> American can drop it in place any better than a Chinese. See a video on
>> YouTube how Fram filters are made.
>>
>> Given the relatively low price of an oil filter, I would still change th=
e
>> filter every oil change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob -<div><br></div><div>I assembled it all and the oil=
turned=C2=A0dark very fast, so I pulled it all apart and I don't recal=
l all the particulars but something about how it was all set up it had a di=
rect stream of flow past the filter....=C2=A0 I switched to the side mounte=
d filter which was a big improvement, oil stayed clean for at least 1,000 m=
iles before start turning color.<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Alan</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 11:04 AM Bob Spidell <<=
a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
Alan,<br>
<br>
How did you determine the filter was bypassing the oil?<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 11/8/2022 3:23 PM, Alan Seigrist via
Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Steve -</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I had one of those as well but I discovered it was
improperly designed and the oil completely bypassed the filter
in operation.=C2=A0 Not sure if it=E2=80=99s because it was designe=
d for a
puralator and I had a teclemite or vice versatile, who knows.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Best,</div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Alan</div>
<div><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 11:36
PM, BJ8Healeys via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
got one of Moss=E2=80=99s first =E2=80=9Cspin on=E2=80=
=9D adapters in the
late =E2=80=9880s because
of the mess caused by the original canister, and the
need to special-order the
replacement cartridges.=C2=A0 This adapter holds the
spin-on filter parallel to the
centerline of the car, with the aft end of the
filter lower than the front.=C2=A0
Changing oil is easy and causes no mess.=C2=A0 I don=E2=
=80=99t
know if this type of adapter
is still available, but the one I have is the only
one I=E2=80=99ve ever seen.=C2=A0 All the
others hold the filter perpendicular and level to
the block and seem to be
sized for a smaller filter than what I use.<br>
I have several Wix 51085 filters, and all except one
(China) are marked =E2=80=9CMade
in USA=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 I remember back in the =E2=80=98=
60s that I used to
pass the Wix plant in
Gastonia, NC about once a week.=C2=A0 </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_791256088775435755_m_24=
5926526388902215__MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family=
:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Steve
Byers</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">HBJ8L/36666</spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">BJ8
Registry</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">AHCA
Delegate at Large</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,"sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Havelock,
NC=C2=A0 USA</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-l=
eft:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,"sans-serif"">
Healeys
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Oritt via
Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 8, 2022 7:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alan Seigrist<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wix 51516XP oil
filter</span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,2=
55)">I
use K&N=C2=A02009's which
fasten=C2=A0to the engine laterally and wish I coul=
d
find a spin-on adaptor
that has the filter facing (open-end) up simply
because it is much easier to
avoid a mess.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,2=
55)">=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,2=
55)">Best--Michael
Oritt</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 10:32 PM
Alan Seigrist <<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;bo=
rder-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in=
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">yes generally if the filter
is pointed down, the bigger the
better... usually the wider it is is more
preferable to the longer it is.</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
But for filter conversions on our healeys,
they normally sit sideways so you
gotta get it with the oil bypass=C2=A0valve</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 9:52
AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:non=
e;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in=
0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A=
s
a corollary to this topic, a
question=E2=80=A6..</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I=
f
one has two filters identical in all
respects except size, would
the bigger of the two be better? ie,
does size matter?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I
only ask because I have latterly been
using large filters, Mann
W1130/1. Made in Germany.:-</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><=
a href=3D"https://catalog.mann-filter.com/EU/eng/catalog/MANN-FILTER%20Kata=
log%20Europa/Oil%20Filter/W%201130~1" target=3D"_blank">MANN-FILTER
Online Catalog Europe - Product
Details Oil Filter
W 1130/1</a></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I=
mpossible
with the original Lucas starter.</span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">A=
ny
ideas?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">T=
hanks,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">S=
imon</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bott=
om:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-b=
ounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean Caron<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 November 2022 20:10<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:fsufan1952=
@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">fsufan1952@yahoo.com</a>;
Warren Dietz <<a href=3D"mailto:flyh=
ihealey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">flyhihealey@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:Healeys@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wix
51516XP oil filter<span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"=
>Don,</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"=
>It
makes absolutely no difference where
the filter is made unless
the manufacturer specifies different
material in its manufacturing
process.
Absolutely every step of the
fabrication is automated and made by
robots except
the step of lining up=C2=A0 the bottom
part of the filter and I doubt an
American can drop it in place any
better than a Chinese. See a video
on YouTube
how Fram filters are made.=C2=A0</span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"=
>Given
the relatively low price of an oil
filter, I would still
change the filter every oil change.</sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:=
white"><span style=3D"color:rgb(33,33,33)" lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-GB"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:=
white"><span style=3D"color:rgb(33,33,33)" lang=3D"EN-GB">Jean</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB"></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"=
>=C2=A0</span></p>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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