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Bob,Thanks for the link, I'll check this out and chase it down. I know als=
o you said you were using the solid core wires, but on this website you se=
nt, it definitely advises against that. Like you, I wonder why. other than=
messing with a radio, I would see no disadvantage. And sense I have no ra=
dio, I don't mind messing with folks next to me and their radios!Stay tune=
d! (No pun intended)StevenOn Aug 30, 2022, at 12:40 PM, Bob Spidell <bspid=
ell@comcast.net> wrote:Found some here: https://vintageperformance.com/r=
etrorockets/austin_healey.htm Looks like there's two versions--'early' an=
d 'late'--for 4-cyl=0A Healeys. On 8/30/2022 8:42 AM, Steven Kingsbu=
ry=0A via Healeys wrote:Been watching this entertaining discussion fr=
om the=0A sidelines and I'm one of those: "it's your car, do what=
you=0A want" guys, but I have a question about the Pertronix shi=
ft.=0A According to the directions, a change in plug wires is=0A =
required. From solid core copper to carbon fiber. So how can=0A =
those of you going back and forth from points to Pertronix=0A =
doing it? Or, are you just sticking with the solid core=0A w=
ires?=C2=A0I tried going to the Pertronix, but the base plate for the=0A =
"ignitor" wouldn't fit where it was claimed, in the depression=0A =
for the condensor, it fit way off not quite 180 degrees but=0A =
close, and though I did get a backfire, I never got the car to=0A =
run and gave up.I pulled the distributor, tore it apart, cleaned e=
verything=0A up, put everything back together, refit it with new =
points and=0A reinstalled it in the car using the cell phone phot=
os I took=0A to get it back as close as possible and bam!, she fi=
red right=0A up! Got my timing light out, made the slightest adju=
stment and=0A I'm back in the game.I have since been able to buy =
another distributor from a=0A BN1, which was a bit of a mess insi=
de, but was able to tear it=0A apart, clean it, put it back toget=
her and it now works just=0A fine and now if I have trouble on th=
e side of the road, I have=0A a spare distributor to switch out.=C2=
=A0But I may go the Pertronix path in the future, and the=0A soli=
d core wire question is still in my mind. As well as the=0A place=
ment of the ignitor. Or am I just using the wrong=0A Pertronix ki=
t? I've got the LU-149 kit. Thanks!Steven Kingsbury=C2=A0BN1On Aug 29, 202=
2, at 11:28 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:I've had=0A =
the pleasure of replacing a set of contact=0A =
points=C2=A0alongside the road in the dark.=C2=A0 If you don't get=0A =
the stack of insulating washers and parts correct you=0A =
are going nowhere and it's awfully easy to drop one=C2=A0of=0A =
the bits down and under the car--with the same result.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0I put a=0A Mallory Unilite distributor/ignition syste=
m in my Healey=0A about twenty years ago with absolutely=C2=
=A0no issue other=0A than a cracked external ballast resist=
or and about three=0A years ago I replaced=C2=A0the module =
simply because I did not=0A want to push my luck any furthe=
r.=C2=A0 On long trips I carry=0A a spare distributor with =
drive dog attached, allowing=0A for quick and easy replacem=
ent=C2=A0and no need to worry=0A about timing so long as I =
pay careful attention to the=0A positions of the rotor and =
distributor body when=0A switching things=C2=A0out.On my=0A=
race cars I use Pertronix modules simply because the=0A =
failure mode is almost always total which makes=0A =
diagnosis much easier whereas=C2=A0with points there is one=0A =
more component=C2=A0(the condenser) plus very often when=0A =
points ignitions go bad the problem is often partial=0A =
and/or intermittent, resulting in more time lost trying=0A =
to diagnose the problem with more sessions lost due to=0A =
having more possibilities to eliminate.=C2=A0Best--Michael=0A =
OrittOn Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at=0A 8:47 PM warthodson=
--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>=0A wrote:Since Per=
tronix don't have points I guess the=0A answer is: "the=
car would not have been disabled due=0A to the points =
failing".=C2=A0Gary-----Original Message-----From: dwflagg--- via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net>To: ahbn6@verizon.netCc: healeys@autox.team.netSen=
t: Mon, Aug 29, 2022 12:00 pmSubject: Re: [Healeys] Distributor guyAlso,=0A=
years ago whilst traveling the New=0A =
York State Thruway I came upon a=0A =
disabled Austin Healey whilst driving=0A =
my own to a fraternity=C2=A0brother's=0A =
wedding. This was before cell phones.=0A =
Disabled vehicles were at the mercy of=0A =
tow trucks and=C2=A0exorbitant fees. It=0A =
was determined=C2=A0there was no=0A =
spark. With no tools but just a nail=0A =
clipper with a nail file, we filed the points,=C2=A0and were bo=
th on=0A our=C2=A0way! Try=C2=A0that with a=0A=
Pertronix unit!=C2=A0DougTo=0A=
add more fuel to the fire, while=0A =
driving on the freeway in Las Vegas=0A =
years ago I had the rotor on my BN6=0A =
split in two. A highway patrolman=0A =
stopped and repaired it with super=0A =
glue and a rubber band. I limped=0A =
home 15 miles =E2=80=93 put on another rotor=0A=
and kept a spare for safety and the=0A=
repaired one in the parcel shelve=0A =
for memories. Try that with a=0A =
Pertronix unit=C2=A0John Simswww.healey6.comMa=
tawan, NJ=C2=A0From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of=
Jim RyanSent: Monday, August 29,=0A 2022=
10:12 AMTo: patrick williams <2x2doc@gmail.com>Cc: List Healey <healeys@a=
utox.team.net>Subject: Re: [Healeys]=0A D=
istributor guy=C2=A0Just wondering, the debate between=0A =
this unit and the original points has=0A =
always been that you can replace the=0A =
points in the event of a failure on the=0A =
side of the road. How difficult is it to=0A =
replace this unit in the same manner if=0A =
you carried a spare, and what would the=0A =
cost be for that spare? I'm referring to=0A =
a1958 Bugeye here.=C2=A0On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 8:21 AM=0A =
patrick williams <2x2doc@gmail.com>=0A =
wrote:It's been close to 20 years=0A =
ago, but Jeff rebuilt my=0A =
distributor, including the vacuum=0A =
advance diaphram, and put in a=0A =
pertronix unit.=C2=A0 I'm very happy=0A =
with the results.Pat Williams1960 BT7________________=
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<html><body><div><div>Bob,<br></div><div>Thanks for the link, I'll check this
out and =
chase it down. I know also you said you were using the solid core wires, b=
ut on this website you sent, it definitely advises against that. Like you,=
I wonder why. other than messing with a radio, I would see no disadvantag=
e. And sense I have no radio, I don't mind messing with folks next to me a=
nd their radios!<br></div><div>Stay tuned! (No pun intended)<br></div><div=
>Steven</div><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 30, 2022=
, at 12:40 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:<br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Found some here: <br></div><div> <br=
></div><div> <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" href=3D"https://vintageperform=
ance.com/retrorockets/austin_healey.htm" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">h=
ttps://vintageperformance.com/retrorockets/austin_healey.htm</a><br></div>=
<div> <br></div><div> Looks like there's two versions--'early' and 'late'-=
-for 4-cyl=0A Healeys.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <=
br></div><div> <br></div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 8/30/2022 8:42 =
AM, Steven Kingsbury=0A via Healeys wrote:<br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div><div>Been watching this entertaining discussion from the=0A =
sidelines and I'm one of those: "it's your car, do what you=0A =
want" guys, but I have a question about the Pertronix shift.=0A =
According to the directions, a change in plug wires is=0A req=
uired. From solid core copper to carbon fiber. So how can=0A thos=
e of you going back and forth from points to Pertronix=0A doing i=
t? Or, are you just sticking with the solid core=0A wires? <=
br></div><div>I tried going to the Pertronix, but the base plate for the=0A=
"ignitor" wouldn't fit where it was claimed, in the depression=0A=
for the condensor, it fit way off not quite 180 degrees but=0A =
close, and though I did get a backfire, I never got the car to=0A =
run and gave up.<br></div><div>I pulled the distributor, tore it =
apart, cleaned everything=0A up, put everything back together, re=
fit it with new points and=0A reinstalled it in the car using the=
cell phone photos I took=0A to get it back as close as possible =
and bam!, she fired right=0A up! Got my timing light out, made th=
e slightest adjustment and=0A I'm back in the game.<br></div><div=
>I have since been able to buy another distributor from a=0A BN1,=
which was a bit of a mess inside, but was able to tear it=0A apa=
rt, clean it, put it back together and it now works just=0A fine =
and now if I have trouble on the side of the road, I have=0A a sp=
are distributor to switch out. <br></div><div>But I may go the Pertro=
nix path in the future, and the=0A solid core wire question is st=
ill in my mind. As well as the=0A placement of the ignitor. Or am=
I just using the wrong=0A Pertronix kit? I've got the LU-149 kit=
. Thanks!<br></div><div>Steven Kingsbury <br></div><div>BN1<br></div>=
<div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 29, 2022, at 11:28 PM=
, Michael Oritt <a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; class=3D"moz-tx=
t-link-rfc2396E"><michael.oritt@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br></div><div>=
<br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I've had=0A the pleasure of repla=
cing a set of contact=0A points alongside the road in =
the dark. If you don't get=0A the stack of insulating=
washers and parts correct you=0A are going nowhere and it'=
s awfully easy to drop one of=0A the bits down and und=
er the car--with the same result. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"color:#3333ff">I put a=0A Mallory Unilite distribut=
or/ignition system in my Healey=0A about twenty years ago w=
ith absolutely no issue other=0A than a cracked extern=
al ballast resistor and about three=0A years ago I replaced=
the module simply because I did not=0A want to push m=
y luck any further. On long trips I carry=0A a spare =
distributor with drive dog attached, allowing=0A for quick =
and easy replacement and no need to worry=0A about tim=
ing so long as I pay careful attention to the=0A positions =
of the rotor and distributor body when=0A switching things&=
nbsp;out.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">On my=0A =
race cars I use Pertronix modules simply because the=0A =
failure mode is almost always total which makes=0A =
diagnosis much easier whereas with points there is one=0A =
more component (the condenser) plus very often when=0A =
points ignitions go bad the problem is often partial=0A =
and/or intermittent, resulting in more time lost trying=0A =
to diagnose the problem with more sessions lost due to=0A =
having more possibilities to eliminate. <br></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael=0A Oritt<br></div></d=
iv><div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gma=
il_attr">On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at=0A 8:47 PM warthodson--- v=
ia Healeys <<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=0A wrote:<br>=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=0A =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=0A rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt "Comic Sans=0A=
MS",sans-serif"><div>Since Pertronix don't have poi=
nts I guess the=0A answer is: "the car would not have b=
een disabled due=0A to the points failing". <br></=
div><div>Gary<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><span class=3D"size" styl=
e=3D"font-size:13px"><div>-----Original Message-----<br></div><div>From: d=
wflagg--- via Healeys <<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailt=
o:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br></div><div>To:=
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:ahbn6@verizon.net";>ahbn=
6@verizon.net</a><br></div><div>Cc: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><d=
iv>Sent: Mon, Aug 29, 2022 12:00 pm<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] D=
istributor guy<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-=
7552218057579924020gmail-m_1594055351053211080gmail-m_-5893998475483822937=
yiv3368558838"><div><div><b><span style=3D""><span class=3D"size" style=3D=
"font-size:12pt">Also,=0A years ago whils=
t traveling the New=0A York State Thruway=
I came upon a=0A disabled Austin Healey =
whilst driving=0A my own to a fraternity&=
nbsp;brother's=0A wedding. This was befor=
e cell phones.=0A Disabled vehicles were =
at the mercy of=0A tow trucks and </=
span></span></b><b style=3D"font-size:16px">exorbitant fees. It=0A =
was </b><span style=3D""><span class=3D"size" style=3D=
"font-size:16px"><b>determined</b></span></span><b style=3D"font-size:16px=
"> there was no=0A spark. With no tools =
but just a nail=0A clipper with a nail file, =
we filed the </b><span style=3D""><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:=
16px"><b>points,</b></span></span><b style=3D"font-size:16px"> and we=
re both on=0A our </b><span style=3D""><=
span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:"Arial=0A =
Black", sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt"><span style=3D""><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:16px"><=
b>way! Try</b></span><span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:"Arial=
=0A Black", sans-serif"><span st=
yle=3D""><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:12pt"><b> that with =
a=0A Pertronix unit!</b></span>=
</span></span></span></span></span></span><br></div><div> <br></div><=
div><b><span style=3D""><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:12pt">Doug=
</span></span></b><br></div><h1><b style=3D"font-size:10pt"><span style=3D=
""><span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:"Arial=0A =
Black", sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" style=3D"=
font-size:12pt">To=0A add more fuel to =
the fire, while=0A driving on the freew=
ay in Las Vegas=0A years ago I had the =
rotor on my BN6=0A split in two. A high=
way patrolman=0A stopped and repaired i=
t with super=0A glue and a rubber band.=
I limped=0A home 15 miles =E2=80=93 pu=
t on another rotor=0A and kept a spare =
for safety and the=0A repaired one in t=
he parcel shelve=0A for memories. Try t=
hat with a=0A Pertronix unit</span></sp=
an></span></b><br></h1><div><div><b><span style=3D""><span class=3D"font" =
style=3D"font-family:"Arial=0A Bla=
ck", sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:12pt"> =
</span></span></span></b><br></div><div><b><span style=3D""><span class=3D=
"font" style=3D"font-family:"Arial=0A =
Black", sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:12pt"=
>John Sims</span></span></span></b><br></div><div><b><span style=3D""><spa=
n class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:"Arial=0A =
Black", sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-=
size:12pt"><a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://ww=
w.healey6.com/"><span style=3D"color:rgb(5,99,193)">www.healey6.com</span>=
</a></span></span></span></b><br></div><div><b><span style=3D""><span clas=
s=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:"Arial=0A =
Black", sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt">Matawan, NJ</span></span></span></b><br></div><div><b><span style=3D"=
"><span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-family:"Arial=0A =
Black", sans-serif"><span class=3D"size" style=3D=
"font-size:12pt"> </span></span></span></b><br></div><div style=3D"bo=
rder-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt=0A =
solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in=0A =
0in"><div><div><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a class=3D"=
moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>heal=
eys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Ryan<br></div><=
div><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 29,=0A 20=
22 10:12 AM<br></div><div><b>To:</b> patrick williams <<a class=3D"moz-=
txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:2x2doc@gmail.com";>2x2doc@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div><b>Cc:</b> List Healey <<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freet=
ext" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=
<br></div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]=0A =
Distributor guy<br></div></div></div><div> <br></div><div><div=
>Just wondering, the debate between=0A this=
unit and the original points has=0A always=
been that you can replace the=0A points in=
the event of a failure on the=0A side of t=
he road. How difficult is it to=0A replace =
this unit in the same manner if=0A you carr=
ied a spare, and what would the=0A cost be =
for that spare? I'm referring to=0A a1958 B=
ugeye here.<br></div></div><div> <br></div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_-7=
552218057579924020gmail-m_1594055351053211080gmail-m_-5893998475483822937y=
iv3368558838yqt58837"><div><div>On Mon, Aug 29, 2022, 8:21 AM=0A =
patrick williams <<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-fr=
eetext" rel=3D"nofollow=0A noopener n=
oreferrer" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:2x2doc@gmail.com";>2x2doc@gmail.co=
m</a>>=0A wrote:<br></div></div><blo=
ckquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;bord=
er-left:1pt=0A solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding:0in 0in=0A 0in=0A =
6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div>It's been=
close to 20 years=0A ago, but Jeff r=
ebuilt my=0A distributor, including t=
he vacuum=0A advance diaphram, and pu=
t in a=0A pertronix unit. I'm v=
ery happy=0A with the results.<br></d=
iv><div><div>Pat Williams<br></div></div><div><div>1960 BT7<br></div></div=
></div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><div>____________________________=
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