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When my BN2 transmission was rebuilt, the mechanic installed a Triumph
TR2/3 overdrive piston. I don't know if it was new old stock or he ordered
it from Moss, but the BN2 and Triumph TR2/3 overdrive piston have the same
part number in the catalog.
Mike MacLean
On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 9:31 PM ahbn6--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> Look at the Moss catalogue. They are listed there. I had them om my bn6
> (which had a tranny out of a BJ8))
>
> John Sims
> www.healey6.com
> Matawan, NJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Haskell
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 5:28 PM
> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>; Michael Salter <
> michaelsalter@gmail.com>; Warren Dietz <flyhihealey@gmail.com>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] DW overdrive piston
>
> Might be something here that would work:
> https://www.lislecorp.com/oem-products-division/magnetic-plugs/pipe-thread/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar
>
> On 8/4/22 1:12 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
> > OK, who sells magnetic plugs for MOWOG gearboxes? I'd be willing to
> > order from Canada ;)
> >
> > I don't remember exactly when I started using MT-90 in my gearbox, but
> > it was probably around 90-100K miles. I was hoping it would make the
> > O/D a bit more responsive, but was surprised that shifting seemed
> > smoother (I wasn't expecting it, so little-no confirmation bias).
> >
> >
> > On 8/4/2022 9:38 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> >> Based upon my observations when the aluminium overdrive accumulator
> >> housings are scored you will invariably find that there are chips out
> >> of the non syncro 1st and reverse gears and usually badly damaged
> >> laygear rollers.
> >> Because these gearboxes were not fitted with chip gathering magnet
> >> originally the tiny hardened steel chips eventually find their way
> >> into the overdrive then through the overdrive pump gauze (because the
> >> magnets originally fitted in the overdrive have been lost by " the
> >> lube guy") and lodge in the accumulator.
> >> Those chips very quickly score the cylinder as the accumulator piston
> >> moves.
> >> If you are careful to never grind 1st or reverse no chips will be
> >> created, that will mean that they don't go through the laygear
> >> bearings or find their way into the overdrive.
> >> A magnetic plug in the gearbox is great insurance.
> >>
> >> M
> >>
> >> On Thu., Aug. 4, 2022, 12:13 p.m. Warren Dietz,
> >> <flyhihealey@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >> Interesting observation.
> >>
> >> Only 30/40 wt non detergent oil was used from new till 2013 at
> >> which time I switched
> >>
> >> to Redline MT90 @ 181,000 miles.
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
> >> for Windows
> >>
> >> *Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:38 AM
> >> healeys@autox.team.net
> >> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] DW overdrive piston
> >>
> >> Warren,
> >>
> >> Your accumulator piston and housing look to have a bit worse
> >> scoring than mine; I used synthetic fluid for over half the life
> >> of mine, I wonder if that made a difference?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail
> >> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> >>
> >> This was the condition of my piston and housing with close to
> >> 200,000 miles. Tranny was well maintained.
> >>
> >> The original metal rings lasted 53 years. So I guess with
> >> unknown quality of either of todays metal vs rubber
> >>
> >> O rings, let the experiments begin.
> >>
> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 3, 2022 10:12 PM
> >> *To: *healeys@autox.team.net
> >> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] DW overdrive piston
> >>
> >> The rings will score the inside of the piston housing, though
> >> not badly (photo at 205K miles). Looks like there's a side
> >> load on the piston, probably from the spring.
> >>
> >> I donated this accumulator to another owner; never heard how
> >> they worked. Moss shows the rings available (but who knows?).
> >>
> >> On 8/3/2022 12:36 PM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote:
> >>
> >> I assemble ODs using the original metal rings and have
> >> not had any issues with pressure or
> >> engagement/disengagement.
> >>
> >> When Mr. DeNormanville stayed up in the middle of the
> >> night to engineer the operation of the unit, I think he
> >> decided that the use of softer rings (sacrificial metal)
> >> against a hardened casing was the best solution for
> >> control and wear. If a rubber o-ring was a better
> >> solution, he would have used one with the proper buna
> rating.
> >>
> >> I think the bigger problem, now-a-days, is the
> >> availability of the metal piston rings. Rubber O rings
> >> are a dime-a-dozen. If you contact Overdrive Spares in
> >> the UK, they should be able to supply the proper rings.
> >> If they too, have decided to go with rubber, then plan on
> >> a breakdown/rebuild in a shorter period of time than
> >> units equipped with the original parts that last a long,
> >> long time. Hank
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >>
> >> From: "Michael Salter"
> >
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Wednesday August 3 2022 9:38:15AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] DW overdrive piston
> >>
> >> I have a question about the "O" ring type of accumulator.
> >>
> >> The way the accumulator works is that when it is fully
> >> charged the piston moves against the spring until the
> >> rings reach the radial holes in the wall of the housing
> >> which acts to relieve any excess pressure.
> >>
> >> My concern is that at 3 - 400 p.s.i. oil will obviously
> >> get behind the "O" ring and force the material of the "O"
> >> ring into those radial holes and then, as the piston
> >> moves back over them, a piece of the ring will shear off.
> >>
> >> I'm guessing that Laycock-DeNormanville used the complex
> >> cast iron rings rather than "O" rings because they
> >> recognized the possibility of this happening.
> >>
> >> I'm sure that tiny pieces of the "O" ring would be found
> >> in the filter if this was a problem. Anyone found them or
> >> noticed damage to their accumulator "O" ring upon
> >> disassembly?
> >>
> >> M
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 9:08 AM Bob Spidell
> >>
> >> I put one in my BJ8's O/D. It's subjective*--O/Ds
> >> seem to work a little
> >> quicker with cold, thick oil than hot oil--but it
> >> cuts maybe a third off
> >> engagement time on average. I had the O/D on the
> >> bench and disassembled,
> >> and the current one had a scored barrel so, why not?
> >> Engagement isn't
> >> much, if any, harsher than before which, I believe is
> >> the reason DMH
> >> wanted the weaker, smaller spring. If I'd known about
> >> it, I might have
> >> bought AHSpares' with an O-ring instead.
> >>
> >> * I've never really 'timed' O/D functioning, it would
> >> be a bit awkward;
> >> anyone done it? I usually tap the clutch pedal when
> >> engaging O/D, and
> >> give a little throttle when disengaging. I thought
> >> mine engaged a little
> >> quicker when I switched to synthetic fluid from
> >> engine oil, but in all
> >> cases confirmation bias may be involved.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/2/2022 8:09 PM, Joseph Costa wrote:
> >> > Has anyone installed their upgraded overdrive
> >> piston? If so, is it
> >> > worth the trouble ?
> >> >
> >> > Joe
> >> > BN1 #923
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>When my BN2 transmission was rebuilt, the mechanic in=
stalled a Triumph TR2/3 overdrive piston.=C2=A0 I don't know if it was =
new old stock or he ordered it from Moss, but the BN2 and Triumph TR2/3 ove=
rdrive piston have the same part number in the catalog. <br></div><div>Mike=
MacLean<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Aug 5, 2022 at 9:31 PM ahbn6--- via Healeys <<=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Look at the =
Moss catalogue. They are listed there. I had them om my bn6 (which had a tr=
anny out of a BJ8))<br>
<br>
John Sims<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.healey6.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">www=
.healey6.com</a><br>
Matawan, NJ<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> On Behalf Of Bob Haskell=
<br>
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 5:28 PM<br>
To: Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>; Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:micha=
elsalter@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>; Warr=
en Dietz <<a href=3D"mailto:flyhihealey@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">fly=
hihealey@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] DW overdrive piston<br>
<br>
Might be something here that would work: <br>
<a href=3D"https://www.lislecorp.com/oem-products-division/magnetic-plugs/p=
ipe-thread/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.lislecorp.com=
/oem-products-division/magnetic-plugs/pipe-thread/</a><br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar<br>
<br>
On 8/4/22 1:12 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
> OK, who sells magnetic plugs for MOWOG gearboxes? I'd be willing t=
o <br>
> order from Canada ;)<br>
><br>
> I don't remember exactly when I started using MT-90 in my gearbox,=
but <br>
> it was probably around 90-100K miles. I was hoping it would make the <=
br>
> O/D a bit more responsive, but was surprised that shifting seemed <br>
> smoother (I wasn't expecting it, so little-no confirmation bias).<=
br>
><br>
><br>
> On 8/4/2022 9:38 AM, Michael Salter wrote:<br>
>> Based upon my observations when the aluminium overdrive accumulato=
r <br>
>> housings are scored you will invariably find that there are chips =
out <br>
>> of the non syncro 1st and reverse gears and usually badly damaged =
<br>
>> laygear rollers.<br>
>> Because these gearboxes were not fitted with chip gathering magnet=
<br>
>> originally the tiny hardened steel chips eventually find their way=
<br>
>> into the overdrive then through the overdrive pump gauze (because =
the <br>
>> magnets originally fitted in the overdrive have been lost by "=
; the <br>
>> lube guy") and lodge in the accumulator.<br>
>> Those chips very quickly score the cylinder as the accumulator pis=
ton <br>
>> moves.<br>
>> If you are careful to never grind 1st or reverse no chips will be =
<br>
>> created, that will mean that they don't go through the laygear=
<br>
>> bearings or find their way into the overdrive.<br>
>> A magnetic plug in the gearbox is great insurance.<br>
>><br>
>> M<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu., Aug. 4, 2022, 12:13 p.m. Warren Dietz, <br>
>> <<a href=3D"mailto:flyhihealey@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">fly=
hihealey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Bob,<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Interesting observation.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Only 30/40 wt non detergent oil was used from n=
ew till 2013=C2=A0 at<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0which time I switched<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0to Redline MT90 @ 181,000 miles.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sent from Mail <<a href=3D"https://go.micros=
oft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https=
://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986</a>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0for Windows<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From: *Bob Spidell <mailto:<a href=3D"mailt=
o:bspidell@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Sent: *Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:38 AM<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*To: *Warren Dietz <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto=
:flyhihealey@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">flyhihealey@gmail.com</a>>;<br=
>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject: *Re: [Healeys] DW overdrive piston<br=
>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Warren,<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Your accumulator piston and housing look to hav=
e a bit worse<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0scoring than mine; I used synthetic fluid for o=
ver half the life<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0of mine, I wonder if that made a difference?<br=
>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sent from Mail<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"https://go.microso=
ft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https:=
//go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986</a>> for Windows<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0This was the condition of my pist=
on and housing with close to<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0200,000 miles. Tranny was well ma=
intained.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The original metal rings lasted 5=
3 years. So I guess with<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0unknown quality of either of toda=
ys metal vs rubber<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0O rings, let the experiments begi=
n.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*From: *Bob Spidell <mailto:<a=
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.ne=
t</a>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Sent: *Wednesday, August 3, 2022=
10:12 PM<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*To: *<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0*Subject: *Re: [Healeys] DW overd=
rive piston<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The rings will score the inside o=
f the piston housing, though<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0not badly (photo at 205K miles). =
Looks like there's a side<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0load on the piston, probably from=
the spring.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I donated this accumulator to ano=
ther owner; never heard how<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0they worked. Moss shows the rings=
available (but who knows?).<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 8/3/2022 12:36 PM, Henry G Lea=
ch via Healeys wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I assemble ODs usin=
g the original metal rings and have<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0not had any issues =
with pressure or<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0engagement/disengag=
ement.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0When Mr. DeNormanvi=
lle stayed up in the middle of the<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0night to engineer t=
he operation of the unit,=C2=A0 I think he<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0decided that the us=
e of softer rings (sacrificial metal)<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0against a hardened =
casing was the best solution for<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0control and wear.=
=C2=A0 If a rubber o-ring was a better<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0solution, he would =
have used one with the proper buna rating.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I think the bigger =
problem, now-a-days, is the<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0availability of the=
metal piston rings.=C2=A0 Rubber O rings<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0are a dime-a-dozen.=
=C2=A0 If you contact Overdrive Spares in<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the UK, they should=
be able to supply the proper rings. <br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If they too, have d=
ecided to go with rubber, then plan on<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0a breakdown/rebuild=
in a shorter period of time than<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0units equipped with=
the original parts that last a long,<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0long time. Hank<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-------------------=
----------------------<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0From: "Michael=
Salter"<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0To: "<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>" <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Cc:<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sent: Wednesday Aug=
ust 3 2022 9:38:15AM<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: Re: [Heale=
ys] DW overdrive piston<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I have a question a=
bout the "O" ring type of accumulator.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0The way the accumul=
ator works is that when it is fully<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0charged the piston =
moves against the spring until the<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0rings reach the rad=
ial holes in the wall of the housing<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0which acts to relie=
ve any excess pressure.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0My concern is that =
at 3 - 400 p.s.i. oil will obviously<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0get behind the &quo=
t;O" ring and force the material of the "O"<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0ring into those rad=
ial holes and then, as the piston<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0moves back over the=
m, a piece of the ring will shear off.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm guessing th=
at Laycock-DeNormanville used the complex<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cast iron rings rat=
her than "O" rings because they<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0recognized the poss=
ibility of this happening.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I'm sure that t=
iny pieces of the "O" ring would be found<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0in the filter if th=
is was a problem. Anyone found them or<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0noticed damage to t=
heir accumulator "O" ring upon<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0disassembly?<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0M<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Wed, Aug 3, 2022=
at 9:08 AM Bob Spidell<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"mail=
to:bspidell@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> <=
;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">bspidell@=
comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I put=
one in my BJ8's O/D. It's subjective*--O/Ds<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0seem =
to work a little<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0quick=
er with cold, thick oil than hot oil--but it<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cuts =
maybe a third off<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0engag=
ement time on average. I had the O/D on the<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0bench=
and disassembled,<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0and t=
he current one had a scored barrel so, why not?<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Engag=
ement isn't<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0much,=
if any, harsher than before which, I believe is<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0the r=
eason DMH<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0wante=
d the weaker, smaller spring. If I'd known about<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0it, I=
might have<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0bough=
t AHSpares' with an O-ring instead.<br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0* I&#=
39;ve never really 'timed' O/D functioning, it would<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0be a =
bit awkward;<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0anyon=
e done it? I usually tap the clutch pedal when<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0engag=
ing O/D, and<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0give =
a little throttle when disengaging. I thought<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0mine =
engaged a little<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0quick=
er when I switched to synthetic fluid from<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0engin=
e oil, but in all<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0cases=
confirmation bias may be involved.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On 8/=
2/2022 8:09 PM, Joseph Costa wrote:<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =
Has anyone installed their upgraded overdrive<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0pisto=
n?=C2=A0 If so, is it<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =
worth the trouble ?<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><=
br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =
Joe<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> =
BN1 #923<br>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0><=
br>
>><br>
>><br>
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