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Just randomly tried the paint stripper test on five of 15 Lucas L594 red le=
ns I have in the bin.=C2=A0 No change, no red residue on the rag,=C2=A0It d=
id remove some blue paint overspray that was on the outside of one lens!=C2=
=A0Perry
-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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599434342WordSection1 {}-->Michael, =C2=A0All four L594 lens on my car had =
similar markings. They are all glass, front two are clear back two painted =
red. =C2=A0Front ClearInner Ring =E2=80=93 LUCAS L594=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 MADE =
IN ENGLANDOuter Ring =E2=80=93 ICM 3137 LAX =C2=A0Rear PaintedInner Ring =
=E2=80=93 LUCAS L594=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ENGLANDOuter Ring =E2=80=93 ICM 3137 L=
AX =C2=A0The script is very slightly different. For some history of my car.=
It was in storage from the mid 1970=E2=80=99s until I stated to restore it=
about 4 years ago. Having taken the car completely apart I could tell ther=
e was never damage to the rear of the car. =C2=A0We need someone who wants =
to sacrifice a red lens to try paint stripper. Another theory is the factor=
y was short on red glass lens and had some clear glass lens painted to cove=
r the shortage. =C2=A0I wouldn=E2=80=99t have known the lens were painted i=
f the paint wasn=E2=80=99t coming off one of the lens. =C2=A0Harold Manifol=
d =C2=A0From: Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 9:25 AM
To: Harold Manifold
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens =C2=A0This is very odd. Li=
ke Mark and Perry I have never encountered red beehive lenses with paint on=
them.Is the paint on the inside or the outside?I would have thought that i=
f they were to be painted by Lucas, of which I'm very doubtful, the paint w=
ould have been on the inside.Can you confirm that the painted lenses have t=
he word LUCAS cast on them and L594? =C2=A0M =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On Sun=
, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:54 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
Update on restoring Lucas beehive lens. The original lens on my 1960 BT7 we=
re painted glass and the paint had peeled noticeably on one of the lens. I =
used a common paint stripper I had on hand to remove all of the original re=
d paint. I first tried to recoat with paint for stained glass from a hobby =
store. It did not work well and was a poor colour match. For the second att=
empt I used VHT Nite-Shades which is lens paint. Who would have thought! It=
worked very well. Picture attached.=C2=A0My total cost is about $30 which =
may be more than new but I was able to use original parts.=C2=A0Harold=C2=
=A0From: i erbs via Healeys
Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 7:09 PM
To: Perry Small
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens=C2=A0I have two red behive=
lenses and the red is in fact peeling off.Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MGB
Milwaukie, OR=C2=A0On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 3:12 PM Perry Small via Healeys <he=
aleys@autox.team.net> wrote:
HaroldAfter seeing Marks response I reread your email. The Lucas red lens w=
ere made of red glass not coated. True, the red color varies.=C2=A0Photo at=
tached.Perry=C2=A0
Harold,
=C2=A0Your comment about the colour =E2=80=98peeling off=E2=80=99 puzzles m=
e.I agree that the red beehive lens does come in a small variety of shades =
=E2=80=93 some quite dark =E2=80=93 but mine are all red glass right throug=
h.=C2=A0=C2=A0No red coating.=C2=A0Mark=C2=A0ArdmoreNZ=C2=A0From:=C2=A0Haro=
ld Manifold <manifold@telus.net>=C2=A0
Sent:=C2=A0Saturday, 5 February 2022 2:49 PM
To:=C2=A0Ken Fleming via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject:=C2=A0[Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens=C2=A0Hello,=C2=A0I have 4=
red original glass Lucas L594 Red Beehive tail light lens. Unfortunately n=
o two match. The colour is either different,=C2=A0faded or starting to peel=
off.Has anyone has good success stripping the old red and then recoating w=
ith a new red?=C2=A0I know you can buy new but these are original and I wou=
ld like to reuse them. Any tips or suggestions are appreciated. What type o=
f coating is recommended.=C2=A0Thanks=E2=80=A6.. Harold=C2=A0
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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Just ra=
ndomly tried the paint stripper test on five of 15 Lucas L594 red lens I ha=
ve in the bin. No change, no red residue on the rag,
<div>It did remove some blue paint overspray that was on the outside of one=
lens!
<div>Perry<br>
<br>
<br>
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size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br>
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<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Michael,</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">All four L594 lens on my car had simi=
lar markings. They are all glass, front two are clear back two painted red.=
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Front Clear</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Inner Ring =E2=80=93 LUCAS L594 =
&nb=
sp; MADE IN ENGLAND</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Outer Ring =E2=80=93 ICM 3137 LAX</di=
v>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Rear Painted</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Inner Ring =E2=80=93 LUCAS L594 =
&nb=
sp; ENGLAND</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Outer Ring =E2=80=93 ICM 3137 LAX</di=
v>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">The script is very slightly different=
. For some history of my car. It was in storage from the mid 1970=E2=80=99s=
until I stated to restore it about 4 years ago. Having taken the car compl=
etely apart I could tell there was never damage to the rear of the car.</di=
v>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">We need someone who wants to sacrific=
e a red lens to try paint stripper. Another theory is the factory was short=
on red glass lens and had some clear glass lens painted to cover the short=
age.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">I wouldn=E2=80=99t have known the len=
s were painted if the paint wasn=E2=80=99t coming off one of the lens.</div=
>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Harold Manifold</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
<div style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><b=
>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:michae=
lsalter@gmail.com">Michael Salter</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Sunday=
, February 27, 2022 9:25 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow=
noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>Harold Manifold</a><br=
clear=3D"none"><b>Cc: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"=
><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">This is very odd. </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Like Mark and Perry I have never encountered red beehiv=
e lenses with paint on them.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Is the paint on the inside or the outside?</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">I would have thought that if they were to be painted by=
Lucas, of which I'm very doubtful, the paint would have been on the inside=
.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Can you confirm that the painted lenses have the word L=
UCAS cast on them and L594?</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;"> </span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">M</span></div>
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family:sans-serif;"> </span></div>
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family:sans-serif;"> </span><span style=3D"background-color: tra=
nsparent;"> </span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:54 AM Haro=
ld Manifold via Healeys <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</d=
iv>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;">
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Update on restoring Lucas =
beehive lens. The original lens on my 1960 BT7 were painted glass and the p=
aint had peeled noticeably on one of the lens. I used a common paint stripp=
er I had on hand to remove all of the original red paint. I first tried to =
recoat with paint for stained glass from a hobby store. It did not work wel=
l and was a poor colour match. For the second attempt I used VHT Nite-Shade=
s which is lens paint. Who would have thought! It worked very well. Picture=
attached.</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">My total cost is about $30=
which may be more than new but I was able to use original parts.</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Harold</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor;">
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a rel=3D"nof=
ollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>i erbs vi=
a Healeys</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, February 5, 2022 7:0=
9 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";>Perry Small</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc: </b>=
<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et">healeys</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Restoring L=
ucas L594 Lens</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">I hav=
e two red behive lenses and the red is in fact peeling off.</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br clear=3D"none"=
>1959 AH 100-6<br clear=3D"none">1967 MGB<br clear=3D"none">Milwaukie, OR</=
div>
</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 3:12 =
PM Perry Small via Healeys <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shap=
e=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</d=
iv>
</div>
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:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;marg=
in-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204=
,204,204);">
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Harold</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">After seeing Marks respons=
e I reread your email. The Lucas red lens were made of red glass not coated=
. True, the red color varies. </div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Photo attached.</div>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Perry</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
</div>
<div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
: sans-serif; background-color: transparent;">Harold,</span><br>
</div>
</blockquote></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;"> </span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;">Your comment about the colour =E2=80=98peeling off=E2=80=99 p=
uzzles me.</span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;">I agree that the red beehive lens does come in a small variet=
y of shades =E2=80=93 some quite dark =E2=80=93 but mine are all red glass =
right through. <b>No red coating</b>.</span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;"> </span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;">Mark</span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;"> </span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;">Ardmore</span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif;">NZ</span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F49=
7D;"> </span></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor;">
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Harold M=
anifold <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:manifold@te=
lus.net">manifold@telus.net</a>> <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b>&nb=
sp;Saturday, 5 February 2022 2:49 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Ken =
Fleming via Healeys <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none=
"><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens</div>
</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Hello,</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">I have 4 red original glas=
s Lucas L594 Red Beehive tail light lens. Unfortunately no two match. The c=
olour is either different, <span style=3D"color:black;background:yello=
w;">faded or starting to peel off.</span></div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Has anyone has good succes=
s stripping the old red and then recoating with a new red?</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">I know you can buy new but=
these are original and I would like to reuse them. Any tips or suggestions=
are appreciated. What type of coating is recommended.</div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal"> </div>
<div style=3D"" class=3D"yiv4599434342MsoNormal">Thanks=E2=80=A6.. Harold</=
div>
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