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Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 10:07:19 -0800
Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Thread-topic: RE: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Micha=
el,</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>All f=
our L594 lens on my car had similar markings. They are all glass, front two=
 are clear back two painted red.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Front Clear</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Inner Ring =E2=
=80=93 LUCAS L594=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 MADE IN ENGLAND</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>O=
uter Ring =E2=80=93 ICM 3137 LAX</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Rear Painted</p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Inner Ring =E2=
=80=93 LUCAS L594=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ENGLAND<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l>Outer Ring =E2=80=93 ICM 3137 LAX<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p=
>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The script is very slightly different=
. For some history of my car. It was in storage from the mid 1970=E2=80=99s=
 until I stated to restore it about 4 years ago. Having taken the car compl=
etely apart I could tell there was never damage to the rear of the car.</p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We need some=
one who wants to sacrifice a red lens to try paint stripper. Another theory=
 is the factory was short on red glass lens and had some clear glass lens p=
ainted to cover the shortage.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal>I wouldn=E2=80=99t have known the lens were painted if=
 the paint wasn=E2=80=99t coming off one of the lens.</p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Harold Manifold<o:p></o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-bo=
rder-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0=
in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>Michael Salter</a><br><b>Sent: </b>=
Sunday, February 27, 2022 9:25 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:manifold@=
telus.net">Harold Manifold</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Res=
toring Lucas L594 Lens</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial",sans-serif'>This is very odd. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif'>Like Mark and Perry I have never encountered red beehive lenses with p=
aint on them.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
yle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Is the paint on the=
 inside or the outside?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I would h=
ave thought that if they were to be painted by Lucas, of which I'm very dou=
btful, the paint would have been on the inside.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Aria=
l",sans-serif'>Can you confirm that the painted lenses have the word LUCAS =
cast on them and L594?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans=
-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:54 AM Harold Manifold via He=
aleys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'=
><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin=
-bottom-alt:auto'>Update on restoring Lucas beehive lens. The original lens=
 on my 1960 BT7 were painted glass and the paint had peeled noticeably on o=
ne of the lens. I used a common paint stripper I had on hand to remove all =
of the original red paint. I first tried to recoat with paint for stained g=
lass from a hobby store. It did not work well and was a poor colour match. =
For the second attempt I used VHT Nite-Shades which is lens paint. Who woul=
d have thought! It worked very well. Picture attached.</p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto'>My total cost is about $30 which may be more than new but I was able=
 to use original parts.</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'm=
so-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Harold</p><p class=3DMso=
Normal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<=
/p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0p=
t 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>i erbs via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent:=
 </b>Saturday, February 5, 2022 7:09 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:hea=
leyguy@aol.com">Perry Small</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@aut=
ox.team.net">healeys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L=
594 Lens</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso=
-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-m=
argin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I have two red behive lenses and t=
he red is in fact peeling off.</p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ira Erbs<br>1959 AH 100-6<br>=
1967 MGB<br>Milwaukie, OR</p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>=
On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 3:12 PM Perry Small via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p=
></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;=
padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0=
in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor =
rgb(204,204,204)'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-al=
t:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Harold</p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>After seeing Marks=
 response I reread your email. The Lucas red lens were made of red glass no=
t coated. True, the red color varies.&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Photo atta=
ched.</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;m=
so-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Perry</p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p></div><div><block=
quote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p></blo=
ckquote></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-=
alt:auto'>=EF=BB=BF</p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-al=
t:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans=
-serif'>Harold,</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-s=
erif'>&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:aut=
o;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-seri=
f'>Your comment about the colour =E2=80=98peeling off=E2=80=99 puzzles me.<=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-=
bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>I agree th=
at the red beehive lens does come in a small variety of shades =E2=80=93 so=
me quite dark =E2=80=93 but mine are all red glass right through.&nbsp;&nbs=
p;<b>No red coating</b>.</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin=
-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahom=
a",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",=
sans-serif'>Mark</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-=
serif'>&nbsp;</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:au=
to;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-ser=
if'>Ardmore</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto=
;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif=
'>NZ</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span></p><div><=
div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0i=
n 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From:</b>&nbsp;=
Harold Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>manifold@telus.ne=
t</a>&gt;&nbsp;<br><b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;Saturday, 5 February 2022 2:49 PM<br><=
b>To:</b>&nbsp;Ken Fleming via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;[Healeys] =
Restoring Lucas L594 Lens</p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-=
margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hello,</p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have 4 red original glass Lucas L594 Red Beehive =
tail light lens. Unfortunately no two match. The colour is either different=
,&nbsp;<span style=3D'color:black;background:yellow'>faded or starting to p=
eel off.</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Has anyone has good success stripping the old red=
 and then recoating with a new red?</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I know you c=
an buy new but these are original and I would like to reuse them. Any tips =
or suggestions are appreciated. What type of coating is recommended.</p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:au=
to'>&nbsp;</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-mar=
gin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks=E2=80=A6.. Harold</p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;</p></div></d=
iv></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto=
;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'ms=
o-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from=
 my iPhone</p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
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