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Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens

To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens
From: Ricchardd Mayor via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 09:45:59 -0800
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I suspect the =E2=80=9Coriginal Lens=E2=80=9D on your 1960 BT7 was an =
original clear lens that someone - during the last 62 years - painted it =
red.   Red Lucas beehive lens are red glass - not painted.


Richard Mayor
boyracer466@gmail.com


> On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:25 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> This is very odd.=20
> Like Mark and Perry I have never encountered red beehive lenses with =
paint on them.
> Is the paint on the inside or the outside?
> I would have thought that if they were to be painted by Lucas, of =
which I'm very doubtful, the paint would have been on the inside.
> Can you confirm that the painted lenses have the word LUCAS cast on =
them and L594?
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> M
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> On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 11:54 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys =
> Update on restoring Lucas beehive lens. The original lens on my 1960 =
BT7 were painted glass and the paint had peeled noticeably on one of the =
lens. I used a common paint stripper I had on hand to remove all of the =
original red paint. I first tried to recoat with paint for stained glass =
from a hobby store. It did not work well and was a poor colour match. =
For the second attempt I used VHT Nite-Shades which is lens paint. Who =
would have thought! It worked very well. Picture attached.
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> My total cost is about $30 which may be more than new but I was able =
to use original parts.
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> Harold
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> Sent: Saturday, February 5, 2022 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens
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> I have two red behive lenses and the red is in fact peeling off.
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> Ira Erbs
> 1959 AH 100-6
> 1967 MGB
> Milwaukie, OR
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> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 3:12 PM Perry Small via Healeys =
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> Harold
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> After seeing Marks response I reread your email. The Lucas red lens =
were made of red glass not coated. True, the red color varies.=20
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> Photo attached.
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> Perry
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> Harold,
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> Your comment about the colour =E2=80=98peeling off=E2=80=99 puzzles =
me.
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> I agree that the red beehive lens does come in a small variety of =
shades =E2=80=93 some quite dark =E2=80=93 but mine are all red glass =
right through.  No red coating.
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> Mark
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> Ardmore
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> NZ
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> Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2022 2:49 PM
> To: Ken Fleming via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net =
> Subject: [Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 Lens
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> Hello,
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> I have 4 red original glass Lucas L594 Red Beehive tail light lens. =
Unfortunately no two match. The colour is either different, faded or =
starting to peel off.
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> Has anyone has good success stripping the old red and then recoating =
with a new red?
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> I know you can buy new but these are original and I would like to =
reuse them. Any tips or suggestions are appreciated. What type of =
coating is recommended.
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> Thanks=E2=80=A6.. Harold
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> Sent from my iPhone
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">I suspect the =E2=80=9Coriginal Lens=E2=80=9D on your 1960 =
BT7 was an original clear lens that someone - during the last 62 years - =
painted it red. &nbsp; Red Lucas beehive lens are red glass - not =
painted.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div apple-content-edited=3D"true" class=3D"">
Richard&nbsp;Mayor<br class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">boyracer466@gmail.com</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">

</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 27, 2022, at 9:25 AM, Michael Salter via Healeys =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: small;">This is very odd.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: small;">Like Mark and Perry I have never encountered red =
beehive lenses with paint on them.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Is the paint =
on the inside or the outside?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">I would have =
thought that if they were to be painted by Lucas, of which I'm very =
doubtful, the paint would have been on the inside.</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: small;">Can you confirm that the painted lenses have the word =
LUCAS cast on them and L594?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: =
arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;">M<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; =
font-size: small;"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: small;"><br =
class=3D""></div></div><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at =
11:54 AM Harold Manifold via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail-m_8794266799724074798WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Update on restoring Lucas beehive lens. The original =
lens on my 1960 BT7 were painted glass and the paint had peeled =
noticeably on one of the lens. I used a common paint stripper I had on =
hand to remove all of the original red paint. I first tried to recoat =
with paint for stained glass from a hobby store. It did not work well =
and was a poor colour match. For the second attempt I used VHT =
Nite-Shades which is lens paint. Who would have thought! It worked very =
well. Picture attached.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My =
total cost is about $30 which may be more than new but I was able to use =
original parts.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p><div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) =
currentcolor currentcolor; border-style: solid none none; border-width: =
1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border: medium none; padding: 0in;"><b =
class=3D"">From:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">i =
erbs via Healeys</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Saturday, February 5, =
2022 7:09 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">Perry =
Small</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">healeys</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Re: [Healeys] Restoring =
Lucas L594 Lens</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u=
 class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">I have two red behive lenses and the red =
is in fact peeling off.</p><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira =
Erbs<br class=3D"">1959 AH 100-6<br class=3D"">1967 MGB<br =
class=3D"">Milwaukie, OR</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sat, Feb 5, 2022, 3:12 PM Perry =
Small via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-color: currentcolor =
currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-style: none none =
none solid; border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in =
6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold</p><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">After seeing Marks response I reread =
your email. The Lucas red lens were made of red glass not coated. True, =
the red color varies.&nbsp;</p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Photo attached.</p></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Perry</p><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p></div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF</p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Harold,</span></p><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Your comment about =
the colour =E2=80=98peeling off=E2=80=99 puzzles me.</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">I agree that the red beehive lens does come in a small =
variety of shades =E2=80=93 some quite dark =E2=80=93 but mine are all =
red glass right through.&nbsp;&nbsp;<b class=3D"">No red =
coating</b>.</span></p><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Mark</span></p><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Ardmore</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">NZ</span></p><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor =
currentcolor; border-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium =
medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b =
class=3D"">From:</b>&nbsp;Harold Manifold &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">manifold@telus.net</a>&gt;&nbsp;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b>&nbsp;Saturday, 5 February 2022 2:49 PM<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b>&nbsp;Ken Fleming via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b>&nbsp;[Healeys] Restoring Lucas L594 =
Lens</p></div></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have 4 =
red original glass Lucas L594 Red Beehive tail light lens. Unfortunately =
no two match. The colour is either different,&nbsp;<span =
style=3D"background-image: none; background-attachment: scroll; =
background-color: yellow; background-position: 0% 0%; background-repeat: =
repeat repeat;" class=3D"">faded or starting to peel off.</span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone has good success stripping the old red =
and then recoating with a new red?</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know =
you can buy new but these are original and I would like to reuse them. =
Any tips or suggestions are appreciated. What type of coating is =
recommended.</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks=E2=80=A6.. Harold</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p=
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class=3D""></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: =
12pt;"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my =
iPhone</p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
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