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Bob
Do you have a pattern for your air dam?
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 9:02 PM Robert Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stephen:
>
>
>
> As part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the
> outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now. In addition, I
> installed the =E2=80=9CShovel=E2=80=9D a baffle on the underside of the r=
adiator to direct
> air into the engine compartment rather than going down under the engine.
> Early driving of short distances on highways and city streets without the
> fan indicates that the Shovel is a great improvement for driving without
> overheating. I can go along at 20-30 mph in light traffic and some
> stopping with no overheating. However, you still need a fan to keep the
> engine from overheating in the hot Florida Sun.
>
>
>
> On the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in the
> Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is about
> the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed away from
> traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot all the time!
> Next I will re-core the radiator.
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 BJ8
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *warthodso=
n---
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 PM
> *To:* s.hutchings@rogers.com; healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Electric fan
>
>
>
> Stephen,
>
> Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider:
>
> I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a measurable
> difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. Some of these
> repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disastrous results. I
> have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it annually. No problem so far.
>
> Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to block
> the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If not, you a=
re
> loosing some of the radiator's efficiency.
>
> Do you have the original air baffles installed?
>
> Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the
> heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared =
to
> a 50% or higher mix.
>
> Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50%
> solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50%
> solution & reverse the process in the fall.
>
> Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more efficient
> core?
>
> Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric fan=
?
>
>
>
> Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy &/or
> inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve the coolin=
g
> system efficiency.
>
>
>
> Gary Hodson
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com>
> To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm
> Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan
>
> I=E2=80=99m interested in what is the most practical way to install an el=
ectric
> fan.
>
> I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switc=
h
> on the electric one when it=E2=80=99s really needed, and others go for a =
complete
> electric replacement with a thermostat.
>
>
>
> I haven=E2=80=99t put an electric fan in, and I=E2=80=99ve got away witho=
ut it so far. But
> I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn=E2=80=99t ha=
ppen often
> but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be
> nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling.
>
> The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your
> timing is- you can still get stuck.
>
>
>
> Now that my car is put away for the winter, I=E2=80=99m thinking about po=
ssible
> future projects.
>
>
>
> Stephen, BJ8
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Bob=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Do you have a pattern for your=
air dam?<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">Ira E=
rbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone</div><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 9:02 PM Robert Begani <<a href=3D"mailto:rfbe=
gani@gmail.com">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div clas=
s=3D"m_9011116148651889021WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d=
">Stephen:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u><=
/u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As part of m=
y rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the outside of the =
radiator with a manual switch for now.=C2=A0 In addition, I installed the =
=E2=80=9CShovel=E2=80=9D a baffle on the underside of the radiator to direc=
t air into the engine compartment rather than going down under the engine.=
=C2=A0 Early driving of short distances on highways and city streets withou=
t the fan indicates that the Shovel is a great improvement for driving with=
out overheating.=C2=A0 I can go along at 20-30 mph in light traffic and som=
e stopping with no overheating.=C2=A0 However, you still need a fan to keep=
the engine from overheating in the hot Florida Sun.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On the other hand, I did not have an overheat=
ing problem driving in the Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over=
30 years which is about the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long =
as I stayed away from traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida i=
s hot all the time!=C2=A0 Next I will re-core the radiator.<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bob Begani<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial=
",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">67 BJ8<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",s=
ans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><b>From:</b> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
> <b>On Behalf Of </b>warthodson--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday,=
October 29, 2019 1:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:s.hutchings@roger=
s.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">s.hutchings@rogers.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Electric fan<u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Aria=
l",sans-serif;color:black">Stephen,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial",sans-serif;color:black">Before adding an electric fan, here are =
a few things to consider:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans=
-serif;color:black">I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has=
made a measurable difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer =
it. Some of these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disas=
trous results. I have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it annually. =
No problem so far.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;=
color:black">Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving slee=
ve to block the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp?=
If not, you are loosing some of the radiator's efficiency.=C2=A0<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Do you have=
the original air baffles installed?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Using coolant mix in the summer with 1=
5-25% antifreeze will improve the heat transfer efficiency of your cooling =
system measurably when compared to a 50% or higher mix.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Some antifreeze is =
necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% solution into Jugs in=
the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50% solution & reve=
rse the process in the fall.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:white">Have you considered having yo=
ur radiator re-cored with a more efficient core?</span><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Is your electr=
ic system capable of the increased load of the electric fan?<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Depending upon your=
definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy &/or inexpensive, the=
re are more things that can be done to improve the cooling system efficienc=
y.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">=
Gary Hodson<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin=
-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Stephen Hutc=
hings <<a href=3D"mailto:s.hutchings@rogers.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">s.hutchings@rogers.com</a>><br>To: Healeys <<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">hea=
leys@autox.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm<br>Subject:=
[Healeys] Electric fan<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;c=
olor:black">I=E2=80=99m interested in what is the most practical way to ins=
tall an electric fan.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-ser=
if;color:black">I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as w=
ell, and switch on the electric one when it=E2=80=99s really needed, and ot=
hers go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat.<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">I haven=E2=80=99t=
put an electric fan in, and I=E2=80=99ve got away without it so far. But I=
really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn=E2=80=99t happe=
n often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it wo=
uld be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The traf=
fic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing is- you=
can still get stuck.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-ser=
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inking about possible future projects.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
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