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This is good advice!!!
I almost killed myself with I think Dupont Chroma 1 or some such in 97, sti=
ll get a reaction when I get a whiff of it.Now I use a 3M PAPR, even when m=
ixing & cleaning up.And of course y'all know that no mask/filter system wil=
l work if one has a lot of facial hair...
Glen Efinger
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 01:36:56 AM EDT, Joe Boruch via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
Most of the two part urethane paints are hazardous like Imron.=C2=A0 The =
hardener is isocyanate, which can cause severe allergic reactions when inha=
led.=C2=A0 Once allergic to it, a person can react to it with every exposur=
e.=C2=A0 Isocyanate is the chemical that was responsible for the deaths in =
the Bopal, India chemical disaster many years ago.=C2=A0 Be sure to use a g=
ood tight fitting cartridge respirator when spraying these urethanes, but I=
think most safety instructions say to use a supplied air respirator.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 07:23:56 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fo=
t <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
Hi Joe.=C2=A0 When I bought the Imron for my car in 1980, the guy wouldn'=
t sell it to me unless I also bought the respirator he recommended!=C2=A0 S=
trong stuff.
Jack
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe Alexander <joea=
lexandervintage@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=20
In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. What wasn=
=E2=80=99t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.
Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasket=
innovations.comCell: =C2=A0319.464.4711
On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
=EF=BB=BF I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I paint=
ed the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.=C2=A0 It was the most durabl=
e paint available at the time, and my experience reflected that.=C2=A0 The =
stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.
Jack
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
=20
Grey will show cracks better than black.=C2=A0 POR is the first thing that =
came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
=20
Cheers, Tony
=20
On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
=20
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I'd suggest POR 15.=C2=A0 Depending on the color, the number changes.=C2=
=A0 I think 15 is black.=C2=A0 Gray is something else, maybe 10.=C2=A0 Spra=
y or brush on.=C2=A0 I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans a=
re perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywh=
ere.=C2=A0 POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.=C2=
=A0 If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with P=
OR I "think" you can skip the primer.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dave H.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Hi All.=20
=C2=A0 It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wond=
ering what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It'=
s already=C2=A0sand blasted if that matters.. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.=C2=A0 =
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This is good advice!!!<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I almost killed myself with I th=
ink Dupont Chroma 1 or some such in 97, still get a reaction when I get a w=
hiff of it.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Now I use a 3M PAPR=
, even when mixing & cleaning up.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false">And of course y'all know that no mask/filter system will work if one=
has a lot of facial hair...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Glen Efinger<br></div><div><=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Most of the two part urethane paints are hazardous=
like Imron. The hardener is isocyanate, which can cause severe aller=
gic reactions when inhaled. Once allergic to it, a person can react t=
o it with every exposure. Isocyanate is the chemical that was respons=
ible for the deaths in the Bopal, India chemical disaster many years ago.&n=
bsp; Be sure to use a good tight fitting cartridge respirator when spraying=
these urethanes, but I think most safety instructions say to use a supplie=
d air respirator. </div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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n 1980, the guy wouldn't sell it to me unless I also bought the respirator =
he recommended! Strong stuff.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none=
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<div><div id=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv59350=
07227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890"><div>In the 70s we were painting John Deere =
Tractors in DuPont Imron. What wasn=E2=80=99t done by robots was done by pa=
inters in HazMat Suits.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Joe Alexander<div>4505 Donald Dr</div><div>Cedar Falls, IA 50613</div><d=
iv>The-vintage-racer.com</div><div>Gasketinnovations.com</div><div>Cell: &n=
bsp;319.464.4711</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<div id=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv25=
77320890yqtfd60849" class=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv59350072=
27ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqt6306304293"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite">On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></di=
v></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"ydp930d2641yi=
v5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890yqtfd04871" clas=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I don't know if it is even still available, but ye=
ars ago I painted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron. It was =
the most durable paint available at the time, and my experience reflected t=
hat. The stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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<p>Grey will show cracks better than black. POR is the first thin=
g
that came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.</p>
<p>Cheers, Tony<br clear=3D"none">
</p>
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iv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd35055" class=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943=
335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604=
046yqt9936172975"><div class=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv59350=
07227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046moz-cite-prefix">On 9/=
27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via
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</blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32=
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class=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577=
320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqt9936172975"></div><div><div id=3D"ydp930d2=
641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv5935007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254e=
yiv2026604046yqtfd17211" class=3D"ydp930d2641yiv5943335626ydp1a7a32ddyiv593=
5007227ydp9eeb879fyiv2577320890ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqt9936172975"><div =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:#333=
333;"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I'd suggest
POR 15. Depending on the color, the number changes. I=
think
15 is black. Gray is something else, maybe 10. Spray =
or
brush on. I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray
cans are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get
it just about anywhere. POR products might be a little more
durable than Rustoleum. If the frame is bare metal, an epox=
y
primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" you can skip
the primer. </span> </div>
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<div> It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and
I'm just wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use
is for a race car frame ? It's already sand blasted if tha=
t
matters.. </div>
<div> Thanks. P.J. </div>
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