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Subject: [Fot] Coolant conundrum
From: Anthony Parker via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 15:02:31 +0000
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I'm having cooling problems.
Need help being convinced that I have to do what I don't want to do.

Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.

Over three trials, the engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses=
 and radiator warming properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and c=
oolant temp will spike to 230+. Radiator cold with sky high coolant temps.

Two more clues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the=
 radiator cap this morning (after cooling all night) pressurized air and co=
olant shot everywhere.

No thermostat and I have confirmed three times that system is completely fu=
ll

Seems I have combustion gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventua=
lly removing pump prime.

Don't know what else it could be.

Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some "=
stop leak" product?

Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?

I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
y two different trusted engine machinists.

Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.

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Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.<br>
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ngine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses and radiator warming pr=
operly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and coolant temp will spike t=
o 230+. Radiator cold with sky high
 coolant temps.</div>
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<div style=3D"margin:0px" class=3D"ContentPasted0">Two more clues, hoses se=
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ng (after cooling all night) pressurized air and coolant shot everywhere.</=
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Don't know what else it could be.</div>
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Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some &=
quot;stop leak&quot; product?</div>
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Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?</div>
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I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
y two different trusted engine machinists.</div>
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Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.</div>
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