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I would 1st check that the solenoid & adjustment is correct, in no love th=
en do a pressure check, & also make sure the filter isn't full of clutch ma=
terial.
Glen Efinger
On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 07:51:17 PM EDT, Henry A. Morrison via=
Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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My current overdrive rebuild went so well with me replacing a variety of l=
inings and washers that were shot or just not installed by the previous reb=
uilder.=C2=A0 I thought all the pressure producing bits looked good so most=
ly left them alone.=C2=A0 I did the pressure test when I got it all back to=
gether and it was close to where it was supposed to be.=C2=A0 I drove the c=
ar once and it seemed to work, drove it again and it dropped into overdrive=
whenever I lifted off the gas and dropped out again when power was re appl=
ied.=C2=A0 This is pretty much what the thing was doing when I started the =
project and I'm sure was the reason for my slower than they should have bee=
n lap times at the Cup!=C2=A0=C2=A0
Any suggestions on what to do next?=C2=A0
Cheers, Henry Morrison
From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Glenn Franco via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:57 PM
To: Nick Black <vintagenick42@yahoo.com>
Cc: Joe Boruch <jaboruch@yahoo.com>; FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] A-type OD leaks=C2=A0I have to chime in on issues with t=
he A type overdrive. Thankfully I have NO more A types to overhaul since th=
ey are a P.I.T.A. to do.
The hardest part, as stated, is lining up the 2 splines that will allow the=
mainshaft to nest into the Planetary Gearset and Overrunning Clutch. You b=
asically need at least yourself and a helper to put it together. I probably=
did 10-12 of these 2 or more years ago. First time we did one we split the=
adapter plate pulling the O/D on to the transmission. Unfortunately it was=
welded back together and the repair was a weak spot. If you force the O/D =
onto the trans when pulling it back together with the 2 nuts on the O/D stu=
ds it will break or bend the plate.
The fasteners (6) that hold the plate to the back of the transmission are d=
rilled for safety wire. I used stainless safety wire on those after torquin=
g. Make sure you repeat the way the wire is routed through the bolt heads. =
I had a couple transmissions leak because I didn't follow the routing=C2=A0=
properly. I mistakenly routed some of the wire near the base of the plate =
fouling the gasket which resulted in an embarrassing 3 comebacks on one tra=
nsmission due to leaks.Took awhile to figure it out, dumb mistake.
Glenn 74 TR6 Restored, 68 TR250 Frame Off in Progress, 73 BMW 2002=20
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 4:04=E2=80=AFPM Nick Black via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote:
Joe=C2=A0I agree, it=E2=80=99s the bolts that hold the od plate to the tran=
smission. I recall that the torque on these bolts is about 25 lbs. the bolt=
s are totally soft and will stretch forever with one or two additional poun=
ds=E2=80=A6 throw them away and use Allen head bolts drilled for safety wir=
e. The stock bolts stretch and the plate gets loose and leaks.
Sent from the wilds of NorCal=C2=A0
On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:52 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI have a leaky a-type OD in my street TR4 that looks like it's lea=
king from near the adapter plate.=C2=A0 I have never taken one apart.=C2=A0=
Can I just separate the OD from the trans and replace the gaskets or the a=
dapter plate (I've heard that Quantum Mechanics sells an uprated plate and =
am checking with John to see if he has one) and then reassemble without nee=
ding to take the OD apart further?=C2=A0 There is a youtube video that show=
s an OD being separated and it looks like it is do able.=C2=A0
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I would 1st check that the s=
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amp; also make sure the filter isn't full of clutch material.<br></div><div=
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On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 07:51:17 PM EDT, Henry=
A. Morrison via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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My current overdrive rebuild went so well with me replacing a variety of li=
nings and washers that were shot or just not installed by the previous rebu=
ilder. I thought all the pressure producing bits looked good so mostl=
y left them alone. I did the pressure
test when I got it all back together and it was close to where it was supp=
osed to be. I drove the car once and it seemed to work, drove it agai=
n and it dropped into overdrive whenever I lifted off the gas and dropped o=
ut again when power was re applied.
This is pretty much what the thing was doing when I started the project an=
d I'm sure was the reason for my slower than they should have been lap time=
s at the Cup! </div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:57 PM<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>I have to chime in on issues with the A type overdrive. Thankfully I h=
ave NO more A types to overhaul since they are a P.I.T.A. to do.
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<div>The hardest part, as stated, is lining up the 2 splines that will allo=
w the mainshaft to nest into the Planetary Gearset and Overrunning Clutch. =
You basically need at least yourself and a helper to put it together. I pro=
bably did 10-12 of these 2 or more
years ago. First time we did one we split the adapter plate pulling the O/=
D on to the transmission. Unfortunately it was welded back together and the=
repair was a weak spot. If you force the O/D onto the trans when pulling i=
t back together with the 2 nuts
on the O/D studs it will break or bend the plate.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>The fasteners (6) that hold the plate to the back of the transmission =
are drilled for safety wire. I used stainless safety wire on those after to=
rquing. Make sure you repeat the way the wire is routed through the bolt he=
ads. I had a couple transmissions
leak because I didn't follow the routing properly. I mistakenly rout=
ed some of the wire near the base of the plate fouling the gasket which res=
ulted in an embarrassing 3 comebacks on one transmission due to leaks.</div=
>
<div>Took awhile to figure it out, dumb mistake.</div>
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<div>Glenn 74 TR6 Restored, 68 TR250 Frame Off in Progress, 73 BMW 2002 <br=
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<div>I agree, it=E2=80=99s the bolts that hold the od plate to the transmis=
sion. I recall that the torque on these bolts is about 25 lbs. the bolts ar=
e totally soft and will stretch forever with one or two additional pounds=
=E2=80=A6 throw them away and use Allen head bolts
drilled for safety wire. The stock bolts stretch and the plate gets loose =
and leaks.</div>
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it's leaking from near the adapter plate. I have never taken one apar=
t. Can I just separate the OD from the trans and replace the gaskets =
or the adapter plate (I've heard that Quantum
Mechanics sells an uprated plate and am checking with John to see if he ha=
s one) and then reassemble without needing to take the OD apart further?&nb=
sp; There is a youtube video that shows an OD being separated and it looks =
like it is do able. </div>
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