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To: Joe Boruch <jaboruch@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Sealants used on Fo8 gaskets
From: Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 16:27:30 -0500
Cc: Friends Of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
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Joe;
We=E2=80=99ve used the two of them together in two different engines. The Pe=
rmatex was washed away from the rear main seal cap sides in both cases.
In fairness, in that application it takes a very long time to dry, and so it=
 may have not set completely before we ran the engine. But we never had that=
 issue until using the Driven synthetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be really g=
ood stuff!  Thanks to Ken Knight for  the recommendation.
We=E2=80=99ve switched to Permatex Anaerobic sealant and it works very well.=
 Much easier than soaked felt....
Phil Gott

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> On Feb 8, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Joe Boruch <jaboruch@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Thanks David.  Driven says that their oils should not cause your issue, bu=
t they think you may have an issue with fuel dilution.  They did suggest not=
 to use the Aviation Permatex, since it can be affected by aromatic solvents=
 (which is what gasoline is).  I looked at the instructions for Permatex Ind=
ian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that it is affected by aromatic s=
olvents.  The instructions for Aviation Permatex say that is affected by aro=
matic solvents.  Looks like for my next build that I will go back to using I=
ndian Head (if it has not been deemed to be un PC by then). =20
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> Thanks for bringing this issue to light.  Joe B.
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> On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Gott <triumphsix@yahoo=
.com> wrote:
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> Hi Joe,
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> Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of the felts in my engine after being washed c=
lean by Driven XP3.  You can see the cement is washed out of the felts upon r=
emoval, and also the permatex parted along the seam of the block/cap.   Neve=
r happened before running the oil.  Hondabond held up just fine afterwards.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Joe;<div>We=E2=80=99ve used the two of them=
 together in two different engines. The Permatex was washed away from the re=
ar main seal cap sides in both cases.<div>In fairness, in that application i=
t takes a very long time to dry, and so it may have not set completely befor=
e we ran the engine. But we never had that issue until using the Driven synt=
hetic oil. Which, BTW, seems to be really good stuff! &nbsp;Thanks to Ken Kn=
ight for &nbsp;the recommendation.</div><div>We=E2=80=99ve switched to Perma=
tex Anaerobic sealant and it works very well. Much easier than soaked felt..=
..</div><div>Phil Gott<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 8, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Joe B=
oruch &lt;jaboruch@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp8ac71bcbyahoo-sty=
le-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;f=
ont-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks David.&nbsp; Driven sa=
ys that their oils should not cause your issue, but they think you may have a=
n issue with fuel dilution.&nbsp; They did suggest not to use the Aviation P=
ermatex, since it can be affected by <span><span style=3D"color: rgb(38, 40,=
 42); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">aromatic s=
olvents (which is what gasoline is)</span></span>.&nbsp; I looked at the ins=
tructions for Permatex Indian Head gasket shellac and it does not say that i=
t is affected by aromatic solvents.&nbsp; The instructions for Aviation Perm=
atex say that is affected by aromatic solvents.&nbsp; Looks like for my next=
 build that I will go back to using Indian Head (if it has not been deemed t=
o be un PC by then).&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks for bringing this i=
ssue to light.&nbsp; Joe B.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>
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ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                    On Monday, February 8, 2021, 02:57:29 PM EST, David Gott=
 &lt;triumphsix@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:
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Hi Joe,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Here=E2=80=99s some pictures of th=
e felts in my engine after being washed clean by Driven XP3. &nbsp;You can s=
ee the cement is washed out of the felts upon removal, and also the permatex=
 parted along the seam of the block/cap. &nbsp; Never happened before runnin=
g the oil. &nbsp;Hondabond held up just fine afterwards.</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div><div class=3D"ydp1c628845yiv9309541554yqt3639321438" id=
=3D"ydp1c628845yiv9309541554yqt29763"><blockquote class=3D"ydp1c628845yiv930=
9541554iosymail"><div class=3D"ydp1c628845yiv9309541554yqt8099896322" id=3D"=
ydp1c628845yiv9309541554yqtfd01941"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote></div></div>
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