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I see both sides of this but personally I don't think that the oil system =
can ever be too clean.First, it's reality that all engines normally make so=
me metal, especially during run-in, due to ring seating/wear, dry (cold) st=
art wear to bearings (the biggest cause of wear), timing gear, rocker/valve=
stem etc, etc.The oil filter is gonna filter out anything bigger than XX m=
icrons, but anything smaller will obviously be passed on to the engine, tha=
t's the dark sludge that accumulates in the sump and accusump, blind oil pa=
ssages, and elsewhere.Considering that the oil is literally the lifeblood o=
f the engine, I try to give it all the help I can...Glen
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Gray via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: van.mulders.marcel <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>
Cc: 'fot' <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2018 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? also re filters
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42WordSection1 {} #yiv0490016042 I don=E2=80=99t flush the =E2=80=9C engine=
=E2=80=9D. I just try to get as many small particulates out of the cooler a=
nd oil lines as I can within reason.Ask yourself, how many quarts of=C2=A0 =
oil do your oil lines, cooler and sump line carry and do you actually get a=
ll that oil/debris outwith a normal oil change? Say what you want but since=
I=E2=80=99ve started doing this my oil quality on the average has been bet=
ter and I=E2=80=99vehad better engine life. =C2=A0Jim =C2=A0From: van.mulde=
rs.marcel@telenet.be <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>=20
Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:25 AM
To: Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? also re filters =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0When the engine is running, during a race,=C2=A0 a hot fluid with det=
ergents and other additives is flushing the=C2=A0 engine, oil cooler etc...=
namely the engine oil!=C2=A0 Frankly,=C2=A0 I really wonder if flushing th=
e engine by yourself is any better. Admittedly, the engine oil is contamina=
ted with combustion blow by, this is one of the reasons to exchange the eng=
ine oil every now and then, but is it really possible to do anything better=
than that? I may very well be wrong, but=C2=A0 so far I don't=C2=A0 unders=
tand why it is necessary to flush the engine.Marcel.Van: "fot" <fot@autox.t=
eam.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano@yahoo.com>, "fubog1" <fubog1@aol.com>, "fo=
t" <fot@autox.team.net>, bownes@web9.com, "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@spitfire4=
.com>
Verzonden: Zaterdag 8 december 2018 18:13:14
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? also re filters =C2=A0=
Brian,I mis-spoke when I said I flush the accusump with kerosene. I flush t=
he accusump with cheapo oil but flush the sump lines with keroseneWhen I du=
mp the old oil I leave the electric valve open and run the pressure up with=
the Schrader valve in the other end to insure the piston is bottomed.I put=
the cheap oil in the oil charger, remove the Schrader valve and connect it=
to the accusump completely fill the accusump with oil, re connect the sump=
line, put the Schrader valve back in and run the pressure up to 90 PSI and=
blow the oil back out into the pan while draining.Then I=E2=80=99ll remove=
the Schrader valve again, connect my flusher to both ends of the sump line=
and circulate some kerosene. I still have cheapo oil in the charger,I=E2=
=80=99ll run a quart of that through the sump line just to chase out any ke=
rosene and move to the oil cooler and cooler lines. The last phase is with =
new VR-1,Fully charge the accusump, fill the sump line & reconnect, re-fill=
the oil cooler and cooler lines and reconnect everything & done. I set up =
all my oil lines to make this easy. My oil cooler lines have an inline filt=
er and both incoming and out going lines have a connection right on top of =
the L/F fender for easy access.It sounds like a pain but a full oil change =
and flush takes me about an hour. I could make things even easier with dry =
break fittings but those things are really pricey so for now I=E2=80=99ll j=
ust spend the hour on a change. On a new engine everything will come apart =
and get hand cleaned.Having that K & P filter really helps get tiny debris =
out as it=E2=80=99s generated.jim=C2=A0From: Brian Schirano <bschirano@yaho=
o.com>=20
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2018 8:57 PM
To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>; bownes@we=
b9.com; rocky@spitfire4.com; JAMES GRAY <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? also re filters=C2=A0wou=
ld love to hear more on the flushing system. Particularly how do you flush =
the accusump? there is only one way in and out. I've taken it apart and cle=
aned it, but a flush?=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0
BSchirano@yahoo.com=C2=A0=C2=A0On Friday, December 7, 2018, 11:44:52 AM EST=
, JAMES GRAY via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =C2=A0=C2=A0Some years ago=
now I had a conversation with Lake Speed Jr at Brad Penn oils about viscos=
ity and drove home the importance of maintaining oil quality. After that co=
nversation I went all out in the way I treat my oiling system.I run the K &=
P oil filter with cleanble element. I keep a spare filter element which I =
change out after every day of racing. The filter elements are FAA certified=
so good enough for me. So, after each day of racing I can see how my motor=
is doing in just a couple minutes. Oil is changed after two weekends. On e=
ach oil change I completely flushall my oil lines, oil cooler and my accusu=
mp with kerosene with the handy recirculating flusher I made from a 5 gallo=
n bucket and 12 volt fluid pump. I'll run a few quarts of cheap oil through=
just to make sure there is no kerosene left. After that I recharge the ent=
ire system with a pressurized oil fill can with VR-1.This way I have all th=
e old oil out and can refill the oil lines, cooler and accusump with fresh =
oil. Then I can re-pressurize the accusump and it's ready to go on the next=
engine start.Overkill? maybe, but overkill is underated anyway. My motors =
last longer as a result of the extra work.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
On December 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: I=
routinely cut the spin-on filters open for inspection, street and race car=
s.There's a purpose-made cutter available nowadays, it's just a big tubing =
cutter.My procedure is to cut off the end, remove the element, strip the ha=
rdware off of it and cut the ends off with a sharp blade. Then stretch out =
the element dirty (outside) up on a couple layers of paper towels and weigh=
t the ends so that it lays flat.Leave it overnight so that the oil soaks ou=
t of it and you'll be able to see any trash very clearly in the folds.You'l=
l also be amazed at how little filter material is in some filters eg fram..=
.NAPA Gold/WIX seem to be the best.Glen =C2=A0=C2=A0-----Original Message--=
---=20
From: robert bownes <bownes@web9.com>=20
To: Rocky Entriken <rocky@spitfire4.com>=20
Cc: britcars <britcars@bellsouth.net>; fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>; vfracing <v=
fracing@aol.com>; FOT <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 4:45 pm=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? After cleaning out a fil=
ter that survived a bad bearing in my 1147 Spit (Back in the Day) and re-us=
ing it (It was after the filter), the next engine lasted a whole 22 minutes=
, about 3 sessions short of a race weekend, before the very same failure oc=
curred. I've never re-used a cooler since. =C2=A0But I do have a stack of 3=
or 4 for anyone who wants one. :)=C2=A0I miss that car. But not the grenad=
es that it kept under the hood.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 =
at 4:20 PM Rocky Entriken via Fot < fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
Any bad stuff in the oil lines is gonna originate in the engine, so make th=
e filter the first stop (and usually the shortest line). Then the cooler. A=
nd what nobody else mentioned, a check valve after the cooler before it goe=
s back to the engine (keeps oil from flowing backwards into cooler, say on =
start-up.) My Accusump is plumbed into a Tee that=E2=80=99s just before the=
engine inlet =E2=80=93 what goes to the Accusump is filtered and cooled oi=
l, and what comes from the Accusump goes only to the engine because the che=
ck valve prevents it going the other way.=C2=A0And yeah, coolers are cheap.=
If I=E2=80=99m concerned I=E2=80=99ll flush out the lines (self-service ca=
r wash does the trick, use high-pressure rinse), but buy a new cooler.=C2=
=A0--Rocky=C2=A0From: barry rosenberg via FotSent: Monday, December 3, 2018=
7:27 AMTo: fubog1 ; Phil GottCc: fot@autox.team.netSubject: Re: [Fot] Oil =
Cooler or Oil filter first?=C2=A0=C2=A0Yes, filter first. But what I have r=
un into on some customers cars is the way the cooler lines run. Most cooler=
s are mounted with the fittings on top. This does not permit the cooler to =
drain and when you change your oil, the cooler retains the old oil. You hav=
e to remove the cooler and at least one line to drain the old oil out. Try =
to set your cooler a little high with the fitting on the bottom so it can s=
elf drain. Of course, this means you must pre-lube the engine before startu=
p. I also set my cooler behind the radiator and not in front. NASCAR expert=
s say that the closer the oil and water temp are to each other, the better.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0Barry=C2=A0On Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Go=
tt via Fot < fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=C2=A0=C2=A0Filter first. Keeps the =
crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to clean. Good thought By Glen to =
replace the cooker on engine refreshing.=C2=A0With a cooler in the system, =
also a good idea to prelube the engine with an Accusump upon cold start. Oi=
l cooler lines are long and may drain upon standing a while. Sent from my i=
Phone
On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM, fubog1 via Fot < fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
I typically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the engine before the cooler,=
and a second filter after the cooler.It may be overkill but it eliminates =
the possibility of oil cooler trash getting in the engine.I also replace th=
e cooler @ every engine freshen-up.Glen=C2=A0=C2=A0-----Original Message---=
--=20
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et>=20
Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 2:51 am=20
Subject: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? Listerati, =C2=A0For those o=
f you running a remote oil cooler and remote oil filter do you run the hose=
coming OUT of the engine into the cooler first or the filter first? Just w=
anted to see how and why (if there=E2=80=99s a reason) most run their lines=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">I see both sides of this but personally I don't thin=
k that the oil system can ever be too clean.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">First, it's reality that all engines normally make so=
me metal, especially during run-in, due to ring seating/wear, dry (cold) st=
art wear to bearings (the biggest cause of wear), timing gear, rocker/valve=
stem etc, etc.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">The oil filter is gonna filter out anything bigger th=
an XX microns, but anything smaller will obviously be passed on to the engi=
ne, that's the dark sludge that accumulates in the sump and accusump, blind=
oil passages, and elsewhere.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Considering that the oil is literally the lifeblood o=
f the engine, I try to give it all the help I can...</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: Jim Gray via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: van.mulders.marcel <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be><br>
Cc: 'fot' <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Sun, Dec 9, 2018 11:17 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? also re filters<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t flush the =E2=80=9C e=
ngine=E2=80=9D. </div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal">I just try to get as many small parti=
culates out of the cooler and oil lines as I can within reason.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal">Ask yourself, how many quarts of =
; oil do your oil lines, cooler and sump line carry and do you actually get=
all that oil/debris out</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal">with a normal oil change?</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"> Say what you want but since I=E2=80=
=99ve started doing this my oil quality on the average has been better and =
I=E2=80=99ve</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal">had better engine life.</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"> </div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal">Jim</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"> </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> van.mulders.marcel@telen=
et.be <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be> <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b>=
Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:25 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Jim Gray <=
;toodamnfunky@comcast.net><br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> fot <fot@auto=
x.team.net><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oi=
l filter first? also re filters</div>
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</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Whe=
n the engine is running, during a race, a hot fluid with detergents a=
nd other additives is flushing the engine, oil cooler etc... namely t=
he engine oil! Frankly, I really wonder if flushing the engine =
by yourself is any better. Admittedly, the engine oil is contaminated with =
combustion blow by, this is one of the reasons to exchange the engine oil e=
very now and then, but is it really possible to do anything better than tha=
t? I may very well be wrong, but so far I don't understand why =
it is necessary to flush the engine.</span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Mar=
cel.</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center;" align=3D=
"center"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span><hr id=3D"yiv0490016042zw=
chr" width=3D"100%" size=3D"2" align=3D"center"></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">=
Van: </span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">"fot" <<a rel=3D"noope=
ner noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r clear=3D"none"><b>Aan: </b>"Brian Schirano" <<a rel=3D"noopener norefe=
rrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com"; target=3D"_blan=
k" href=3D"mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com";>bschirano@yahoo.com</a>>, "fubog1=
" <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fubog=
1@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fubog1@aol.com";>fubog1@aol.com<=
/a>>, "fot" <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>>, <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bownes@web9.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bo=
wnes@web9.com">bownes@web9.com</a>, "Rocky Entriken" <<a rel=3D"noopener=
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>rocky@spitfire4.com</a>>=
<br clear=3D"none"><b>Verzonden: </b>Zaterdag 8 december 2018 18:13:14<br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? a=
lso re filters</span></div>
</div>
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bsp;</span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Brian,</=
span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">I mis-sp=
oke when I said I flush the accusump with kerosene. I flush the accusump wi=
th cheapo oil but flush the sump lines with kerosene</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">When I d=
ump the old oil I leave the electric valve open and run the pressure up wit=
h the Schrader valve in the other end to insure the piston is bottomed.</sp=
an></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">I put th=
e cheap oil in the oil charger, remove the Schrader valve and connect it to=
the accusump completely fill the accusump with oil, re connect the sump li=
ne, put the Schrader valve back in and run the pressure up to 90 PSI and bl=
ow the oil back out into the pan while draining.</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Then I=
=E2=80=99ll remove the Schrader valve again, connect my flusher to both end=
s of the sump line and circulate some kerosene. I still have cheapo oil in =
the charger,</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">I=E2=80=
=99ll run a quart of that through the sump line just to chase out any keros=
ene and move to the oil cooler and cooler lines. The last phase is with new=
VR-1,</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Fully ch=
arge the accusump, fill the sump line & reconnect, re-fill the oil cool=
er and cooler lines and reconnect everything & done. I set up all my oi=
l lines to make this easy. My oil cooler lines have an inline filter and bo=
th incoming and out going lines have a connection right on top of the L/F f=
ender for easy access.</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">It sound=
s like a pain but a full oil change and flush takes me about an hour. I cou=
ld make things even easier with dry break fittings but those things are rea=
lly pricey so for now I=E2=80=99ll just spend the hour on a change. On a ne=
w engine everything will come apart and get hand cleaned.</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">Having t=
hat K & P filter really helps get tiny debris out as it=E2=80=99s gener=
ated.</span></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;">jim</spa=
n></div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> </=
span></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black;">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"color:black;"> Brian Schirano <<a rel=3D"noope=
ner noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com";>bschirano@yahoo.com</a>>=
; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 7, 2018 8:57 PM<br clear=
=3D"none"><b>To:</b> fubog1 <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rec=
t" ymailto=3D"mailto:fubog1@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fubog=
1@aol.com">fubog1@aol.com</a>>; fubog1 via Fot <<a rel=3D"noopener no=
referrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>>; <a rel=
=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bownes@web9.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bownes@web9.com";>bownes@web9.com</a>; <a r=
el=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4=
.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>rocky@spitfire4=
.com</a>; JAMES GRAY <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:to=
odamnfunky@comcast.net">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? also re filters</=
span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black;"> </=
span></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">wou=
ld love to hear more on the flushing system. Particularly how do you flush =
the accusump? there is only one way in and out. I've taken it apart and cle=
aned it, but a flush?</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">26A=
GT6+, 28 TR6</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Bri=
an Schirano<br clear=3D"none">585-305-0349 Cell <br clear=3D"none"><a =
rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:BSchirano@yaho=
o.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:BSchirano@yahoo.com";>BSchirano@yaho=
o.com</a></span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0490016042ydp788b544ayahoo_quoted_4287730593">
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On =
Friday, December 7, 2018, 11:44:52 AM EST, JAMES GRAY via Fot <<a rel=3D=
"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote: </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv0490016042ydp788b544ayiv1874404987">
<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Some years ago now I had a conversat=
ion with Lake Speed Jr at Brad Penn oils about viscosity and drove home the=
importance of maintaining oil quality. After that conversation I went all =
out in the way I treat my oiling system.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">I run the K & P oil filter with =
cleanble element. I keep a spare filter element which I change out after ev=
ery day of racing. The filter elements are FAA certified so good enough for=
me. So, after each day of racing I can see how my motor is doing in just a=
couple minutes. Oil is changed after two weekends. On each oil change I co=
mpletely flush</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">all my oil lines, oil cooler and my =
accusump with kerosene with the handy recirculating flusher I made from a 5=
gallon bucket and 12 volt fluid pump. I'll run a few quarts of cheap oil t=
hrough just to make sure there is no kerosene left. After that I recharge t=
he entire system with a pressurized oil fill can with VR-1.</span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">This way I have all the old oil out =
and can refill the oil lines, cooler and accusump with fresh oil. Then I ca=
n re-pressurize the accusump and it's ready to go on the next engine start.=
</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Overkill? maybe, but overkill is und=
erated anyway. My motors last longer as a result of the extra work.</span><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;"></span></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On December 3, 2018 at 3:28 PM fubog1 via Fot =
<<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox=
.team.net</a>> wrote: </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">I r=
outinely cut the spin-on filters open for inspection, street and race cars.=
</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">The=
re's a purpose-made cutter available nowadays, it's just a big tubing cutte=
r.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">My =
procedure is to cut off the end, remove the element, strip the hardware off=
of it and cut the ends off with a sharp blade. Then stretch out the elemen=
t dirty (outside) up on a couple layers of paper towels and weight the ends=
so that it lays flat.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Lea=
ve it overnight so that the oil soaks out of it and you'll be able to see a=
ny trash very clearly in the folds.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></sp=
an></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">You=
'll also be amazed at how little filter material is in some filters eg fram=
...</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">NAP=
A Gold/WIX seem to be the best.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span><=
/div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Gle=
n</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> </span><span style=3D"color:blac=
k;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none">=
From: robert bownes <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:bownes@web9.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bownes@web9.=
com">bownes@web9.com</a>> <br clear=3D"none">To: Rocky Entriken <<a r=
el=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4=
.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>rocky@spitfire4=
.com</a>> <br clear=3D"none">Cc: britcars <<a rel=3D"noopener norefer=
rer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:britcars@bellsouth.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" href=3D"mailto:britcars@bellsouth.net";>britcars@bellsouth.net</a>>;=
fubog1 <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:fubog1@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fubog1@aol.com";>fubog1@ao=
l.com</a>>; vfracing <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:vfracin=
g@aol.com">vfracing@aol.com</a>>; FOT <<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer"=
shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" hre=
f=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> <br clear=3D"non=
e">Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 4:45 pm <br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil=
Cooler or Oil filter first? </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></d=
iv>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Aft=
er cleaning out a filter that survived a bad bearing in my 1147 Spit (Back =
in the Day) and re-using it (It was after the filter), the next engine last=
ed a whole 22 minutes, about 3 sessions short of a race weekend, before the=
very same failure occurred. I've never re-used a cooler since. </span><spa=
n style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">But=
I do have a stack of 3 or 4 for anyone who wants one. :)</span><span style=
=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">I m=
iss that car. But not the grenades that it kept under the hood.</span><span=
style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv0490016042ydp788b544ayiv1874404987ox-92436807e0-yiv1736221226=
yqt31919">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On =
Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:20 PM Rocky Entriken via Fot < <a rel=3D"noopener =
noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote=
: </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black;">Any bad stuff in the oil lines is gonna originate in the engine, s=
o make the filter the first stop (and usually the shortest line). Then the =
cooler. And what nobody else mentioned, a check valve after the cooler befo=
re it goes back to the engine (keeps oil from flowing backwards into cooler=
, say on start-up.) My Accusump is plumbed into a Tee that=E2=80=99s just b=
efore the engine inlet =E2=80=93 what goes to the Accusump is filtered and =
cooled oil, and what comes from the Accusump goes only to the engine becaus=
e the check valve prevents it going the other way.</span><span style=3D"col=
or:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black;"> </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black;">And yeah, coolers are cheap. If I=E2=80=99m concerned I=E2=80=99ll=
flush out the lines (self-service car wash does the trick, use high-pressu=
re rinse), but buy a new cooler.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span>=
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black;"> </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black;">--Rocky</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black;"> </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;"> barry rosenberg via Fot</span><span style=3D"color:black=
;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Sent:</span></strong><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;"> Monday, December 3, 2018 7:27 AM</span><span style=3D"co=
lor:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">To:</span></strong><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;"> fubog1 ; Phil Gott</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></sp=
an></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Cc:</span></strong><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;"> <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.n=
et">fot@autox.team.net</a></span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"background:whitesmoke;"><str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Subject:</span></strong><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Re: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first?</span><sp=
an style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color=
:black;"> </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Yes=
, filter first. But what I have run into on some customers cars is the way =
the cooler lines run. Most coolers are mounted with the fittings on top. Th=
is does not permit the cooler to drain and when you change your oil, the co=
oler retains the old oil. You have to remove the cooler and at least one li=
ne to drain the old oil out. Try to set your cooler a little high with the =
fitting on the bottom so it can self drain. Of course, this means you must =
pre-lube the engine before startup. I also set my cooler behind the radiato=
r and not in front. NASCAR experts say that the closer the oil and water te=
mp are to each other, the better.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span=
></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Bar=
ry</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"yiv0490016042ydp788b544ayiv1874404987ox-92436807e0-yiv1736221226=
m_8395565733904378271ydp77e30394yahoo_quoted_4365142166">
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On =
Monday, December 3, 2018, 8:02:15 AM EST, Phil Gott via Fot < <a rel=3D"=
noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Fil=
ter first. Keeps the crud out of the cooker. Coolers are hard to clean. Goo=
d thought By Glen to replace the cooker on engine refreshing. </span><=
span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">With a cooler in the system, also a good idea =
to prelube the engine with an Accusump upon cold start. Oil cooler lines ar=
e long and may drain upon standing a while. </span><span style=3D"color:bla=
ck;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Sen=
t from my iPhone</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"><br clear=3D"none">On Dec 3, 2018, at 7:02 AM,=
fubog1 via Fot < <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.t=
eam.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote: </span><span style=3D"color:blac=
k;"></span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">I t=
ypically run an inspectable (Oberg) out of the engine before the cooler, an=
d a second filter after the cooler.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></sp=
an></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">It =
may be overkill but it eliminates the possibility of oil cooler trash getti=
ng in the engine.</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">I a=
lso replace the cooler @ every engine freshen-up.</span><span style=3D"colo=
r:black;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Gle=
n</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">---=
--Original Message----- <br clear=3D"none">From: Bud Rolofson via Fot < =
<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.tea=
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">-</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">To: =
FOT < <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fo=
t@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@=
autox.team.net</a>> <br clear=3D"none">Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2018 2:51 am <b=
r clear=3D"none">Subject: [Fot] Oil Cooler or Oil filter first? </span><spa=
n style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Lis=
terati, </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">For=
those of you running a remote oil cooler and remote oil filter do you run =
the hose coming OUT of the engine into the cooler first or the filter first=
? Just wanted to see how and why (if there=E2=80=99s a reason) most run the=
ir lines. </span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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sp;</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv0490016042MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Bud=
</span><span style=3D"color:black;"></span></div>
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