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Re: Tragedy x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"

To: "roadster" <roadster@rcn.com>, "L Jordan" <ay107@lafn.org>,
Subject: Re: Tragedy x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
From: "Edgar Gonzalez" <datsunspl311@home.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:15:22 -0700
I am angry and frustrated as much as anyone else.  My condolences go the
thousands of people who've lost friends and loved ones.

My initial thought was to blame the usual suspects without really having any
concrete evidence against them.  It's been several hours now and I am still
in shock. I see the coverage and still can't really come to terms with it.

I have a strong suspicion these terrorists were aided by people very
familiar with commercial aircraft and our air transportation systems.  I
would not be surprised if we find out that whoever masterminded this attack
consulted/hired experts (other than middle eastern terrorist types) who knew
exactly where to hit the buildings and with what kind of aircraft to
maximize the structural damage.   I don't believe our usual suspects have
enough brains to carry out an attack of this magnitude all by themselves.
It would take an awful lot of strategic planning and training to accomplish
this horrendous attack.  It just could not have happened otherwise.

I am hoping our government will be able to properly identify and punish the
parties responsible for this cowardly attack on civilians.  My opinion on
stopping these terrorists is probably too simple.  Eliminate them.  We must
now take it seriously whenever a terrorist makes a threat against our
national security and act accordingly.  I've heard a lot of talk about what
other countries' reactions would be if we were to take military action.  My
opinion on it is "who cares".  Our country has been attacked, not theirs.
They can either help or shut up and get the hell out of our way.  GOD BLESS
AMERICA.

Edgar


----- Original Message -----
From: "roadster" <roadster@rcn.com>
To: "L Jordan" <ay107@lafn.org>; "Datsun Roadster List"
<datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: Tragedy x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"


> If we had apologists during the Pearl Harbor bombing then we may have not
> retaliated against the Japanese - they were mad at us for blockading their
> access to oil. (Also forgotten by us is that the US navy bombed their
towns
> in the mid-19th century to open their ports but our schools don't teach
> that.) The fire-bombing destruction of Tokyo and our nuking of two of
their
> cities made them humble. It was wrong to throw Japanese-American citizens
in
> concentration camps. And it would be wrong to similarly target Islamic
> Americans here on our soil.
>
> My anger is at seeing these people in the middle east stomping on our
> American flag, celebrating our pain, claiming responsibility for doing
harm
> to our interests, and promising future actions against us. I don't need to
> figure them out, they're out to hurt us and we need to respond with
> strength. That worked against Japan. Lest anyone think I'm anti-Japanese,
> I'm half-Japanese and my mother survived the destruction of Tokyo and
> strafing of her home by American pilots. My father was a U.S. officer out
to
> help win the war for America. Peace can come after the war. But we first
> have to defend our people and our interests (democracy - something they
> don't have) by use of strength.
>
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L Jordan" <ay107@lafn.org>
> To: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:20 PM
> Subject: Tragedy x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"
>
>
> > Despite this tragedy Democracy must continue which is anchored by the
> > principle that one is presumed innocent until proven guilty. I just pray
> > the government doesn't do something without enough evidence thereby
> > making martyrs and encouraging the next generation of bomb throwers.
> > Let's not forget too that Okalohoma City was an american terrorist, not
> > Islamic.
> > The hard question to ask is why are they mad at us? A question one asks
> > in even the most minor disagreement, what is the other person's
> > argument? For then we can take steps to correct anything we may have
> > done which was not right. This in no way excuses any extreme behavior
> > anyone would take in disagreement with us. But unless you know WHY there
> > is anger you cannot defuse it. You may not be able to anyway but it
> > increases your chances. Any good hostage negotiator knows this. Let's
> > try to figure these people out, it's our only hope because you can never
> > make things secure enough to completely eliminate this kind of thing.
> > Lastly we should appeal to anyone who knows about this to do the right
> > thing, make the call.
> > Venting like everyone else, and that's Democracy isn't it?
> > Linda

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