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Re: NCSCC "History"

To: Sethracer@aol.com, ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: NCSCC "History"
From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:23:58 -0800
Aha! That was before your time, Seth! I remember quite distinctly switching
club membership from Twin Valley SCC to MGCC, or after I sold the MGA, to
another club (can't remember which one). You're right, there was never a
registry of names, but the clubs themselves knew. :)
I autocrossed in the Bay Area from about 1961 until whenever. :)
--Pat Kelly
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>From: Sethracer@aol.com
>To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: NCSCC "History"
>Date: Thu, Jan 31, 2002, 11:16 AM
>

>John Kelly wrote:
>Each event was staged by a member club and their members staffed the event. 
>Said were barred from competing in their events as they were the "hosts."
>This led to some games playing as people switched club affiliations in 
>order to score points in the NCSCC Championship. Some joined an 
>NCSCC-affiliated club (You had to belong to one in order to score points)
>that didn't stage autocrosses and they avoided working events entirely. And 
>they won championships.
>        Those clubs are, essentially, all gone.
>
>John - I don't know what year that came from, but that was never the case 
>during the 20 years I ran in council events. That was from about 1973 
>through 1994. And I was Autocross chairman for two years. I was always a 
>member of at least one or two council clubs, usually ACT and another Marque 
>club. There was never a NCSCC restriction on club members competing. I 
>always ran at our own events. I also never saw a competitor change clubs 
>for any class competitive reason, other than perhaps to build a stronger 
>team challenge. A few clubs, notably Lockheed and the GG Lotus club always 
>staffed their own events, but other clubs often solicited workers from the 
>ranks of competitors. Several of the council clubs are doing their own 
>thing today. The Marque clubs are still marque clubs. The people who ran in 
>the competition clubs who are still running, are running either SCCA Solo 
>II or NASA events or both. The NCSC Council structure was not adaptable 
>enough to function in the reality of!
> multiple sites and rising costs, since they were, with a couple of 
>exceptions, essentially a confederation of small (read as poor) clubs. They 
>needed a "Federal" structure, and couldn't figure out a reliable way to do 
>it. SFR SCCA took over as the central autocross structure for the Bay Area, 
>and NASA continues to "co-"operate on the periphery, using much of the same 
>user base that SCCA and, formerly, the council clubs sought.  - Seth Emerson 

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