Several posts from 2000. Most of it is still relevant. I bought
the Makita 24 volt. You can use "Torque sticks" that might give
you a max torque setting. I haven't tried one yet.
Matt Murray
mattm@optonline net (the "dot" is missing to reduce data mining)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Schmiechen" <aschmiechen@discovercolor.com>
> Every once and a while someone on this list starts talking
about power tools
> for removing/installing lug nuts. I guess it's my turn to
bring it up
> again. I remember someone posted that they're using a
Milwaukee cordless,
> either regular driver or impact driver. Anyone care to share
that info
> again, especially the model number.
>
> I'm also curious about putting the lug nuts back on. Is it
possible to use
> a power driver and set it to the right torque that it stops at
say 80ft/lbs?
> -A.
From: "Jim Ochi"
To: <ax-digest@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Cordless Impact Guns
> I've used both the Makita 6911HDW and the Snap-On CT-350
cordless impact
> guns. Both of them are pretty nice, but the Snap-On has a lot
more
> torque. Using a torque wrench, I tightened a lug bolt to
various torques,
> then tried to break them loose with each of the guns. Both
guns had fully
> charged batteries. The Makita was able to remove a bolt
torqued to 65
> ft-lbs, but couldn't do one at 70. With the Snap-On, I got up
to 105
> ft-lbs without any problems - then I got bored and cut the test
short
> without finding out the Snap-On's upper limit.
> The Makita is perfectly fine if you're willing to take the time
to use a
> breaker bar to loosen your lugs first, and it's much cheaper
than the
> Snap-On. But, if you're lazy (like me!) and you do a lot of
wheel
> changes, the additional cost of the Snap-On is worth it.
>
> That said, I just saw a new Makita cordless impact - it's a 24
volt model,
> and is supposed to be able to do 150 ft-lbs of torque.
Unfortunately, the
> local discount tool hut where I saw it wanted around 500 bucks
for it...
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jim Ochi
The Makita lasted a lot longer than the Snap-On, but I wasn't
using it to
break loose the lug bolts. If I remember correctly (I used it
about a year
ago), it would last 3-5 events (2 4-wheel changes per event)
before needing
another charge. The Snap-On lasts about 2-3 events before
running out of
juice. Both would take about an hour to charge. Whichever way
you decide
to go, I'd strongly recommend getting an extra battery. I also
have a
12-volt light that I hook up to the battery to run it down
completely
before I recharge it - seems to help eliminate the Nicad "memory"
effect,
which makes it last longer, too.
Hope this helps,
Jim Ochi
jochi@ricochet.net
http://www.makitatools.com/whatsnew/nta.asp
There is a 24v version at the top
Scroll down and you'll see 3-4 12v versions
Now I just need to find a place that carries them...
Dave K
URSCCA
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The Makita:
I'm gonna go with Makita 6911HDWA, 12v cordless. Comes with case
and
charger.
1/2" drive and all the usual good features. $189 from
http://www.toolsforless.com/makita/cordlessdrills.htm
The Hitachi:
Hitachi 12v 1/2 inch driver, has max torque of 85 ft/lbs
and costs $239 (used to cost $217 when I bought it). You can
order it at
http://www.thetoolman.com/cgi-bin/shopper?showtools&type=Impact+T
ools%3a++Co
rdless
And the Snap-On:
Impact Wrench, Cordfree, 12 Volt, 1/2" Drive Price: $349.99
BATTERY LIFE
600 cycles
BATTERY TYPE
Nickel-cadmium
BLOWS PER MINUTE
2,160
CHARGE TIME
approximately 1 hour
FREE SPEED, RPM
1,600
LENGTH, inches
9.5
MOTOR/BATTERY VOLTAGE
12VDC
SQUARE DRIVE SIZE, inches
1/2
TIGHTENING TORQUE, ft. lbs. (N7m)
80 (108.5)
WEIGHT, LBS.
8.6
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
BTW120SA
1/2" Cordless Impact Wrench Kit
Variable Speed, Reversible
(Click for larger view)
Features
Technologically advanced MAKSTAR battery and charger for extended
battery
life
Powerful 12V (2.0Ah) Ni-MH battery for longer run-time
Variable speed (0-2,300 RPM) for controlled fastening
Efficient impact system (0-3,000 IPM)
Compact design (6-15/16" length) for easy meneuvering in tight
places
Rare Earth Magnet motor increases power by 20% without increasing
size
Externally accessible brushes for easy replacement and longer
tool life
Maximum tightening torque of 1,064 in. lbs.
Impact resistant magnesium hammer casing for durability
Rubber bumpers on tool to protect workpiece from scratches
Electric brake for fast stopping of socket
Standard Equipment
Ni-MH Battery BH1220 (193346-2)
Charger DC14SA
Plastic tool case (824489-6)
Specifications
Capacity 1/2" Square drive
No load speed 0-2,300 RPM
Impact Per Minute 0-3,000
Maximum Torque 1,064 in. lbs.
Battery 12V (2.0Ah)
Overall Length 6-15/16"
Net Weight 3.5 lbs.
Shipping Weight 9.6 lbs.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > I'm gonna go with Makita 6911HDWA, 12v cordless. Comes with
case and
> charger.
> > 1/2" drive and all the usual good features. $189 from
> > http://www.toolsforless.com/makita/cordlessdrills.htm
> >
> > I'm very pleased. 1 second per lug upto 60ft*lbs. I start
and finish
> with a
> > torque wrench. Slow start to avoid cross threading then let
'er rip.
> >
> > Travis
>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
<< Alrighty now...here's the deal. The photo and specs of the
Snap-On 1/2"
Cordless Impact are on a scan I put up at:
Deal Pricing is $ 300.00 for the gun, case, charger and one
battery.
(regular $ 365.00 off the truck)
Extra battery is $ 65.00. (Regular $ 72.00)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I have a hitachi 12v 1/2 inch driver, has max torque of 85 ft/lbs
and costs $239 (used to cost $217 when I bought it). It is
durable as
hell
you can order it at
http://www.thetoolman.com/cgi-bin/shopper?showtools&type=Impact+T
ools%3a++Co
rdless
note that they have several others for sale too, much less than
300
bucks.
Theres a place called Berland's house of tools that
sells all kinds of cordless impact stuff.
I use a hitachi 12 volt cordless impact wrench with
a 1/2 inch drive. It is rated at 85 ft/lbs of torque
and is very ruggedly built. it is $217 from Berlands
(they are located in chicago, but do mail order).
There webpage for cordless tools is at:
http://www.thetoolman.com/cgi-bin/shopper/berlnk/tools/cit.html
or you can start at the main page at http://www.thetoolman.com
They pick the Hitachi 12volt model WH12DK as the best.
Hope that helps!
Alex Tziortzis
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