Right on Kimball :-) Along with your best of bread example is an example of
how classing similar type cars together is not being done with these cars
either. The best example is the 225hp TT Quattro coupe and the 217hp Talon
AWD. These are two ducks if I ever saw one, yet one is in AS and the other
is in GS.
---JCG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ayer, John K" <John.Ayer@PSS.Boeing.com>
To: "'team.net'" <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:39 PM
Subject: WRX Classing (fanning the flames...)
> Have you sent these thoughts to the SEB, Jim? I will if you will...
>
> Also booting the Audi S4, and 225hp TT up to AS when their lesser brethren
stay in GS is a violation of the often applied "Best of Breed" rule that
keeps older 180hp Corvettes and Camaro/Mustangs suffering along in SS and FS
with newer models that have almost twice the power and weigh less too.
> The BoB is also one reason for why the Type R was kept in GS with it's
truly stock brethren.
> Oh not to mention classing it before anyone (except GRM, what about it
Per?) has even seen it, let alone driven one.
> Put the Audis, WRX, type.R , and DSM turbos together and that will make a
pretty good class, and GS can return to "normal" mid-power Probe/MX6 and V-6
Camaro/Mustang glory days.
>
> But I've been running DSP for years why do I care, you ask?
>
> Kimball Ayer
> AS/STS/SM?
> Y2K2 WRX 4ME
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 22:31:57 -0500
> From: "Jim Zeisler" <zeislerj@hotmail.com>
> Subject: WRX Classing
>
> In previous posts it appeared that the only options mentioned for the new
> WRX were either A/S or G/S. I recall that these were the same choices for
> the Audi S4. Why is it that a car that is too fast for G/S has to be
bumped
> all the way to A/S?
>
> If you look at last year's Nats results, there was a 5.7 second gap in the
> total time between these two classes.
>
> A/S...107.2
> B/S...108.6
> C/S...110.9
> D/S...113.6
> E/S...113.6
> F/S...110.4
> G/S...112.9
>
> It seems that cars that are too fast for G/S, but are similar in layout to
> these cars, become sacrificial lambs for the two seat rear drive sports
cars
> in A/S, in order to not interfere with the criteria that have been
> established for the classes in between, such as the "Miata class", or the
> "Older Sports Car Class", or the "Neon Class".
>
> IMHO, it would make more sense to break the current mold that has been
> established for D/S, and send these fast G/S cars into D/S, particularly
> since E/S and D/S times are closely matched. Why not move the Type R, the
> DSM, and the 3-Series BMW into D/S, along with the WRX and the S4? If the
> WRX and the S4 truly outpace the rest of this group, then perhaps there is
> justification for the move to a faster class, or maybe F/S for the S4, due
> to its weight. If this year's D/S times were just an aberration, then
> perhaps the Neons will keep pace with this group. If not, move all the
> Neons into E/S.
>
> One further benefit of this approach is that an entire new group of cars
> will be competitive in G/S, ending the stranglehold of the Type R, which
> again IMHO, was a misfit for the class, and extended the misclassing of
the
> Integra, which started with the GSR.
>
> Flame suit on.
>
> Jim Zeisler
> E/S Celica GT
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