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RE: it's long, so delete if you are not interested in Alpine

To: "Almjeld, Paul" <PaAlmjel@dwu.edu>, <alpines@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: it's long, so delete if you are not interested in Alpine
From: "Chris Stephenson" <cs_tscg@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:47:49 -0400
Paul,

For what it is worth, I had the same problem and changed things like you
did, etc, etc. Although I do not have a mechanics explanation of the cause,
I did find a solution. I finally determined that I was getting little fire
out of one plug. I did that by connecting a timing light to each of the plug
wires. I would get intermittent/weak firing from the plugs, but nothing like
the ones that were working. I replaced wires, plugs, and whatever else I
have spares for. I still got the problem. The solution was to create an arc
with the plug wire where it goes into the distributor. I did this by
slightly pulling it away from the distributor contact. I ran it that way for
about 6 months before I parked the car. Maybe someone on the list can
explain why arcing the wire worked.

Hope this helps

Chris Stephenson
cs@tscg.net
(404) 915-7669

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-alpines@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-alpines@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Almjeld, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:38 AM
To: 'alpines@autox.team.net'
Subject: it's long, so delete if you are not interested in Alpine motor m
ysteries!

Hi all:

My 1725 engine was rebuilt this summer.  I finally got it back in Ol' Blue
this past weekend.  Here's the mystery:  The engine will start, but runs
only with power on cylinders 1 and 2 --------- 3 and 4 have minimal power -
you can pull off the plug wires on 3 & 4 while running and there is very
little change in rpm.  I need to run partial choke and keep rpms at 2000 in
order to keep the engine running.  I suspect this is due to the significant
drag on 3 & 4.  I have changed spark plugs, plug wires, reset the valve gap,
checked and rechecked the timing - all to no avail.  I blew out the gas
lines.  I removed the manifold to insure there was no blockage in the
manifold or in the cylinder head.  I have a nearly full gas tank.  I have to
admit, that after 30 years of Alpine ownership and successfully dealing with
a variety of challenges, I am stumped!

compression - 175 or so on all 4 cylinders

valve gaps set cold to 15 thousands on all valves - I've done this before so
that I'm in the ball park to get the engine started - then when properly
warmed up I reset to factory specs.

ignition spark - normal as far as I can tell - it will shoot a gap over an
inch long - Pertronix ignition w/Pertronix coil
Autolite plugs - new condition - plug wires in new condition - new
distributor cap - even tried an old one - no difference

timing - about 7 degrees advanced - starts readily - even on 2 cylinders!

fuel distribution through a Weber 32/36 and electric fuel pump.  All lines
cleaned, fuel flow is excellent to the carb.
gas tanks are nearly full of premium gasoline

checked the valves while engine was running - there is up and down motion on
all intake and exhaust valves.  Rechecked the valve gaps with pistons at TDC
before compression stroke  (did this on each cylinder)

what am I missing?????  This is really frustrating as the distributor,
plugs, plug wires, manifold and carb were removed from the spare engine I
pulled out of Ol' Blue.  It was working just fine when I shut it down and
they were only off an engine for an overnight.   I am stumped!

Dr. Paul Almjeld
Department of Music
Dakota Wesleyan University
Mitchell, SD   57301
palmjeld@dwu.edu

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