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1. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: larry gallo <agallo@pcfl.net>; Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 03:49:03 -0400; Bobby Rahal was @ HSR Atlanta "Porsche event" 2 weeks ago, I think in an open Lola that might have been said T-70.; /html/vintage-race/1999-10/msg00083.html (7,290 bytes)
2. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: "Robert Alder" <alder_rj@ix.netcom.com>; Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:37:11 -0600; The Wednesday (10/20/99) New York Times had a really nice series of articles on racing in a special "Cars" section. Of interest to the recent thread on "Our Sport" were the following quotes (taken fr; /html/vintage-race/1999-10/msg00155.html (7,212 bytes)
3. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Simon Favre <simon@mondes.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:52:52 -0700; So, I guess every two years, we'll get to discuss the latest "Moss Incident" at length. ;=( As for public chastisement, you can't get much more public than the NYT. ;=); /html/vintage-race/1999-10/msg00160.html (7,608 bytes)
4. Our Sport (score: 1): Author: jdesanti@inficon.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:33:54 -0400; "I just don't think it would do the sport any real good." Funny that you would call this rather "rich boy" hobby of ours a sport.; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00273.html (7,120 bytes)
5. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:08:10 -0400; Hemingway once said that auto-racing and bull-fighting are the only sports - the rest are games. Perhaps you participate as a dilettante - dabbling vicariously in an endeavor that many feel deserves; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00274.html (7,700 bytes)
6. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Simon Favre <simon@mondes.com>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:36:35 -0700; By the same token, golf is a sport, but how many duffers can claim to be on a par (literally) with Tiger Woods? Refer to the previous discussion on the meaning of "Corinthian" as being a person of me; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00276.html (8,189 bytes)
7. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: schaiken@e-chemicals.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:37:15 -0400; If this is a sport then are we atheletes? By the same token, golf is a sport, but how many duffers can claim to be on a par (literally) with Tiger Woods? Refer to the previous discussion on the meani; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00277.html (8,386 bytes)
8. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: S800Racer@aol.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:24:11 EDT; <<Hemingway once said that auto-racing and bull-fighting are the only sports - the rest are games.>> I beleive the correct Hemingway list was Mountain climbing, Bull fighting and auto racing. I theor; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00278.html (7,762 bytes)
9. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: MRogers726@aol.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:15:33 EDT; Unfortunatly, it seems to me that damn near everything has fallen prey to the concept that massive additions of money will make it more fun. There's hardly a sport that one can't find expensive acces; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00279.html (8,119 bytes)
10. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Jim Hayes <hayes@mediaone.net>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:07:56 -0400; Guys, we are all out there racing, no matter what we say, and racing can have consequences. If we cannot accept that "incidents" occur, we should not be involved. Stupid drivers should not be tolera; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00280.html (8,502 bytes)
11. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: "Mark Palmer" <mgvrmark@hotmail.com>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:33:14 PDT; Now then, we can't have a duel if we're all shooting in the same direction can we now? Except in the case of carburretors ... Anyhow, I think there are a couple points to be made. First, the particip; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00283.html (11,004 bytes)
12. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Simon Favre <simon@mondes.com>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:39:12 -0700; I can think of a few sports where the carbon-fiber-titanium-alloy crowd hasn't made much impact. Try billiards. Sure, the sharks carry fancy cues. The sharks have always carried fancy cues. They're s; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00284.html (9,512 bytes)
13. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Simon Favre <simon@mondes.com>; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:02:25 -0700; My point wasn't really about the "shit happens" attitude. Sure, shit happens, it's just that we shouldn't have to put up with it between the ears of someone who was once held in high esteem. My point; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00286.html (8,940 bytes)
14. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Tjackson82@aol.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:15:34 EDT; I'm usually just a lurker and I haven't weighed in on this thread, but it seems to me that in this monthlong debate, first over Moss, and then mention of Brabham, a big point is being overlooked. Wh; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00287.html (9,511 bytes)
15. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: DWhitesdJr@aol.com; Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:57:07 EDT; << It seems to me that we cross over a critical line when we put real race drivers in our cars. To theses guys, these cars we cherish are simply blunt objects designed to get them to the winner's cir; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00289.html (8,674 bytes)
16. RE: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Jim Hill <Jim_Hill@chsra.wisc.edu>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:19:25 -0500; With all due respect, I can't agree. I don't know of a single competitive activity that has improved itself or its image with a system of secret complaints and secret punishments. I'm not aware of an; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00292.html (9,819 bytes)
17. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: jdesanti@inficon.com; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:48:33 -0400; I gotta say, stirring up this group can be more fun than a barrel of Monkeys, or so my kids would say. If I offended anyone with my "rich boy hobby" comment I am sorry - I only tried to lighten this; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00293.html (8,957 bytes)
18. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Barton Spencer Brown <bartbrn@earthlink.net>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:56:48 -0500; Just so, and succinctly put. I grew up 40 miles from Watkins Glen, and started going there in 1962. From then until the end of the Glen's GP era, I don't think I missed a single GP, Six-Hour, 500, Tr; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00294.html (13,545 bytes)
19. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:25:21 -0400; Actually, if someone thinks their not racing when they're on the track, then what are they doing? The difference between "showing", "touring", "lapping" and racing is a huge piece of attitude that sa; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00295.html (10,746 bytes)
20. Re: Our Sport (score: 1): Author: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>; Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:47:18 -0400; Brian riposted (keeping the dueling theme going): Yes. My race car is both. And I see no conflict. I make my race car as effective as possible by tuning, tweaking, and learning, using materials and; /html/vintage-race/1999-09/msg00296.html (9,967 bytes)

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