- 1. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Pat Griffith" <griffser@hotmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 08:53:49 PDT
- Before anybody goes and moves the M3s again, wouldn't it be better to let the season progress before making changes again? A few points to consider: - How would Bob Tunnell had fared the last couple
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- 2. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:12:12 -0400 (EDT)
- Those are all great questions to ask. I've got one more: - How many participants will ESP loose because of the _perception_ that the M3 is an overdog? I've never understood some folks seeming desire
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- 3. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:21:21 -0700
- Absolutely. M3 in ESP makes about as much sense as the New Coke. How much money did Coca Cola Co. lose on that one?
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- 4. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:21:21 -0700
- Take his times and reduce them 1-2% (he's running that much better due to his new setup which I believe mainly is getting rid of the BFGs and switching to Hoosiers) and then see how he would have do
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- 5. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: jon e prevo <tcbracer@juno.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:33:30 -0500
- Ask Mr. Sipe how he compared to Mr. Madarash at the FW Nat'l. Tour.
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- 6. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:04:31 -0700
- I'm not sure what you mean. I can see that Mark Snipe's PAXed time was 114.533 vs Mark Maradesh's PAXed time of 108.607, but I'm not sure what to make of this comparison. Or did you mean something el
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- 7. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Pat Griffith" <griffser@hotmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 12:04:27 PDT
- HE'S running maybe 1-2% faster -- what about all the other M3 drivers in ESP?? So move the M3 'cause some pony car drivers don't prep their cars to the limit of the rules? Again, how are the other M
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- 8. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Brad Cox" <coxb@trimofran.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 14:25:11 -0500
- Maradesh's PAXed time of 108.607, but I'm not sure what to make of this comparison. Or did you mean something else?<< I'm probably stating what everyone else already knows, but the AS folks were run
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- 9. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: jon e prevo <tcbracer@juno.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:24:15 -0500
- Probably my mistake. Sipe drives an M coupe not an M3, right? Same class or different? I guess I could look at my book. Is this not exactly the opposite scenario as my earlier comments concerning the
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- 10. M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Linnhoff, Eric" <elinnhoff@smmc.saint-lukes.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:32:07 -0500
- M3 in ESP makes about as much sense as the New Coke. How much money did Coca Cola Co. lose on that one? == So where _should_ they go? They don't "fit" the profiles of FSP, DSP, CSP or BSP at all. Not
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- 11. RE: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 13:39:31 -0700
- I guess I'm not sure what it is that everyone else already knows (since I don't know it<s>). Maradesh's PAXed time of 108.607, but I'm not sure what to make of this comparison. Or did you mean someth
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- 12. RE: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Brad Cox" <coxb@trimofran.org>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:50:40 -0500
- don't know it<s>).<< I was talking about weather conditions at the Ft. Worth NT. Other than that, I'm in the dark myself. -Brad Maradesh's PAXed time of 108.607, but I'm not sure what to make of thi
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- 13. RE: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 15:26:01 -0700
- They put rear-wheel drive cars in with all-wheel drive cars. Talk about course dependency (or should I say weather dependency). On a related note, why was so much work spent on redoing the SP classe
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- 14. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Phillip S. Osborne" <psosborn@gte.net>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 22:23:35 -0400
- Awwww, come on Jon, that ain't fair. Madarash was on a mission...to beat Ames! Hell, he could have beat Janish in CP that day if that is who he was running against! <vbg> Phil O.
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- 15. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "msmith2" <msmith2@columbus.rr.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 22:51:24 -0400
- Why not? The 325s were moved out of G-Stock because a single driver laid waste to the entire field all year. Now, G-Stock has much faster cars in it and the 325 was moved back, along with other prev
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- 16. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: jon e prevo <tcbracer@juno.com>
- Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:40:06 -0500
- Thanks, Phil! Point is, I don't know who these alleged big dogs are who were spanked in Peru, but until I see an M3 run away from the M guy, I don't figure there can be too much disparity, right? And
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- 17. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: "Jeff Winchell" <Jeff@Winchell.Com>
- Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 09:38:47 -0700
- Well, the fact that the ESP winner in an M3 was right there with Dan Popp should say something shouldn't it? I think the Tunnell's schedule is pretty booked up between travelling to far off national
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- 18. Re: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: Todd Green <tag@cs.utah.edu>
- Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 12:27:31 -0600
- So should the fact that the best Pony car driver at SanBerdo was beat by AS. At Lemoore he only beat AS by .030. In Peru, the best Pony car driver was beaten by AS again. Merideth only beat FS by .0
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- 19. RE: M3's in ESP - Mid Season Opinion (score: 1)
- Author: Jeff Winchell <jwinchell@Giftspot.com>
- Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:19:40 -0700
- Brian Fitzpatrick beat Carter Thompson at Peru by .414 seconds. The ESP ProSolo PAX is .817 and the AS ProSolo PAX is .811. The PAX in AS if calculated using Brian's times and Carter's time would be
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