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41. Re: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Richard Fox" <v4gr@rcn.com>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:25:02 -0800; Glenn but I do run a preoiler on motors I Glenn; Yes I have a single stage belt driven external pump on the Ply. This was caused by the very small stock '32 pump being broken. If you wanted to fuse a; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01015.html (9,219 bytes)
42. Re: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 18:16:19 -0800; Dave, maybe not, see below.. I buy I and then to run Dave, that is the point of the electric drive. The engine driven pump is wasting a lot of power because it has to bypass oil because of it's fixed; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01017.html (9,219 bytes)
43. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:08:16 -0600; see my reply to Grib re Angelle Savoie's pro stock bike w/vacuumed cases. They say they are getting a 10 HP increase; that's on a 92cid @14000rpm. Russ, #1226B --Original Message-- From: Glenn Ridle; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01018.html (9,510 bytes)
44. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "rgribble" <rgribble@carolina.rr.com>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:16:31 -0500; Just this year I traded my 441 for some Buick Parts. I have some fond (and some not-so-fond) memories of the 441 Victim. "Do what others Won't and you'll do what others Can't for the rest of your li; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01019.html (9,675 bytes)
45. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:32:49 -0600; put a 45/1 (stepup) geartrain on your pump shaft, hook up the suction and pressure lines (as Grib suggested), put in a load of your racing oil, and crank your speedwrench to 200rmp. (This should app; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01020.html (10,728 bytes)
46. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:39:40 -0600; well, I sure wouldn't take the risk myself unless I had more relible numbers to work with. To me, this is an NHRA Pro-Stock kind of idea. What I mean is, it MIGHT be worth using in a very competitiv; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01021.html (10,252 bytes)
47. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:50:10 -0600; got any numbers for the required flowrates? What I'm getting at is, I think most of us may be running a lot more than we really NEED. This is a SPRINT. A NASCAR qualifying lap. We should be able to; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01023.html (10,400 bytes)
48. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "rgribble" <rgribble@carolina.rr.com>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:05:02 -0500; Glenn & List, For the Buick, I have purchased a Peterson adjustable vacuum regulator to regulate crankcase vacuum, its range is from as high as 29.7 in/hg down to 2 in/hg. They (NASCAR) have changed; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01024.html (10,023 bytes)
49. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "rgribble" <rgribble@carolina.rr.com>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:34:14 -0500; Russ & List, It certainly cannot take that kind of HP for the dry sum pump or the parasites. I also can't see how it could be equated to a percentage of engine HP. The same alternator requirements fo; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01028.html (10,427 bytes)
50. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:33:04 -0600; oh, so it really IS inches of mercury. As Glenn said-- "WHEW!" That probably would be pretty hard on an open, sheet metal oil pan. Russ, #1226B Glenn & List, For the Buick, I have purchased a Peters; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01029.html (10,379 bytes)
51. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: Glenn Ridlen <gridlen@yahoo.com>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:23:42 -0800 (PST); Well, darn, Now we're going to have to build a pump dyno. At this rate we'll never get the new truck done by August Glenn Russel Mack <rtmack@concentric.net> wrote:Grib: the numbers I was giving (not; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01033.html (8,935 bytes)
52. Re: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Ron Gibson" <rgg14@cox.net>; Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:29:40 -0600; Just to stir the pot a little. I seem to remember just a few years ago one of the top fuelers was running without a pressure pump in competion. Ran a pressure tank and a scavange pump. Oil was always; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01036.html (9,223 bytes)
53. Re: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:56:51 -0800; Back when (2 years ago March 31st) worked for IBM I had access to the library at the main IBM San Jose manufacturing site and the library of IBM's Santa Teresa Lab where I worked for the last 25 yea; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01037.html (9,641 bytes)
54. Re: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: Bryan Savage <basavage@earthlink.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:25:53 -0800; Help me here Grib. Is the whole engine at 20" or just the crank case? If there is 20" of vacuum around the valve seal and stem in the rocker cover how do you get oil down the guide? It seems like hot; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01040.html (9,243 bytes)
55. Re: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "DrMayf" <drmayf@teknett.com>; Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 07:24:00 -0800; Russ, there are switches for automatic shutdown of the engine if there is a loss of oil pressure. I had one on my drag boat. SImple to wire into the coil loop:circuit is closed with pressure, opens a; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01046.html (10,357 bytes)
56. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:01:34 -0600; good point about the low oil pressure kill switch. Don't think I ever knew a modern-era drag racer that didn't have one. As you probably know, we can't get pictures directly on our "list". That's wh; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01047.html (10,185 bytes)
57. Re: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "James Tone" <gmc6power@earthlink.net>; Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:47:31 -0800; Actually they run between 2 minutes and 2 min 15 sec. I've thime many of they from first start to shut off, you would be surprised how close they all are...J.D. -- Original Message -- From: "Ron Gibs; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01054.html (8,896 bytes)
58. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:29:19 -0600; the point you make about the electric water pump (versus belt drive from the crank) MAY also be true of the oil pump: at high rmp, the engine driven oil pump may actually be delivering quite a bit m; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01067.html (8,569 bytes)
59. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:01:35 -0600; thanks. Good, solid info. (We need all we can get!) In this same vane-- drag bike champ Angelle Savoie's tuner is apparently using a wet-sump system on her big Suzi 2-valve 4-cyl. However, he uses a; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01068.html (8,820 bytes)
60. RE: Dry sump (score: 1): Author: "Russel Mack" <rtmack@concentric.net>; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:14:07 -0600; what you say here about the NASCAR guys turning-down the oil flow for qualifying is very relevant in 2 ways, I think: -- the dry sump gives you much better CONTROL; that is, you have the option of c; /html/land-speed/2003-01/msg01069.html (8,689 bytes)

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