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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: LannM@aol.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:31:59 -0500 (EST)
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Alan, et al, 
 
Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week  
classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC  
programming and machining.  The cost is reasonable and geezers (60+) get a  
20% discount.  There may be something similar in your area.
 
And, for a good introduction to machining check _www.sherline.com_ 
(http://www.sherline.com) .  Their stuff is small,  but they are real tools.  
Everything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or  mill transfers to full size 
machines.
 
Lann
 
 
In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bachldrs@comcast.net writes:

#2  SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a 
couple  old geezer's machining classes.  Anybody know where I can take one or 
two  or whatever it takes?  


Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft  
pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water  
pump,  would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the  crankshaft 
pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot be  choosers...


Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on  
your Magnette rear axle.  Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one  of 
these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over  a 
week looking for one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, 
AND  that I already HAD ONE!!  


If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!


Thanks,
Allen

 
 
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On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:



Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this  wonderful 
trade.  Congratulations to you, and to your son.
 
Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket  you are 
talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for  guidance, I'd be 
glad to loan it to him. 
 
As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as  your 
son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.
 
Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!
 
#2Steve K

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From: _Steven Trovato_ (mailto:strovato@optonline.net) 
To: _List for the Z Magnette Group -  North America_ 
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Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55  PM
Subject: [Zmagnette] Machinist  projects


My son is in college in a two year program to become a  machinist.  It 
seems that he needs some  proposals for projects he can do there.  As 
the one paying the tuition, I  get to suggest something that would be 
of use to me and my  MGs.  One thought I had was to make a nice socket 
for the octagon shaped rear  axle nut.  Does anyone else have any 
ideas for any cool stuff I  could suggest?  There's no guarantee that 
he will do it, as the project  would have to fit in with the goals of 
the course work.  So,  what would you guys do if you had a machinist 
at your disposal?  Note  that this is not an automotive machinist 
program, so they are not set  up for operations on engine blocks, 
crankshafts,  etc.

-Steve  T.

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  <DIV>On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><SPAN=20
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    <DIV>Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this=20
    wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your son.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, that s=
ocket=20
    you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he could use it fo=
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    guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him.&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV>As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon=
 as=20
    your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>#2Steve K</DIV>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
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ound-origin: initial; background-clip: initial"><B>From:</B><SPAN=20
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      title=3Dmailto:strovato@optonline.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.net";>Steven Trovato</A></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><A=20
      title=3Dmailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>List for the Z Magnette Grou=
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
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3 6:55=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>[Zmagnette] Machinist=20
      projects</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>My son is in college in a two year program to become a=
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me=20
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; Note=20
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