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from [Steve Kirby] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: "List for the Z Magnette Group - North America" <zmagnette@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: "Steve Kirby" <skirby210@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:17:24 -0800
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FWIW, I spent some time talking to Steve Christensen a few months back.  =
He has these brackets all ready to roll, if we're interested.  He has =
the whole CNC set up, etc. and has done a lot of similar projects for =
MGBs, Morris Minors, etc.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Steve Hanegan=20
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
  Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects


  Been there, done that on the rear axle nut socket...


  I wonder what the group's thoughts are on perhaps replicating some =
Greene brackets for doing disk brake conversions? I have two pair =
squirreled away that we could work from.


  Steve H,


  On Dec 15, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net> =
wrote:


    #2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give =
for a couple old geezer's machining classes.  Anybody know where I can =
take one or two or whatever it takes?


    Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft =
pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the =
water pump,  would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the =
crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot =
be choosers...



    Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working =
on your Magnette rear axle.  Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had =
one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I =
spent over a week looking for one before I realized even the right size =
wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! =20


    If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!


    Thanks,
    Allen

    ****************************************************************
    Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
    Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
    '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
    North Street, MI 48049, USA
    http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
    ****************************************************************


    On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:


      Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this =
wonderful trade.  Congratulations to you, and to your son.

      Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket =
you are talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for guidance, =
I'd be glad to loan it to him.=20

      As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon =
as your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.

      Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!

      #2Steve K
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Steven Trovato
      To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
      Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 PM
      Subject: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects


      My son is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.  =
It=20
      seems that he needs some proposals for projects he can do there.  =
As=20
      the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would =
be=20
      of use to me and my MGs.  One thought I had was to make a nice =
socket=20
      for the octagon shaped rear axle nut.  Does anyone else have any=20
      ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?  There's no guarantee =
that=20
      he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals =
of=20
      the course work.  So, what would you guys do if you had a =
machinist=20
      at your disposal?  Note that this is not an automotive machinist=20
      program, so they are not set up for operations on engine blocks,=20
      crankshafts, etc.

      -Steve T.

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<DIV>FWIW, I spent some time talking to Steve Christensen a few months=20
back.&nbsp; He has these brackets all ready to roll, if we're =
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for=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Been there, done that on the rear axle nut socket...
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I wonder what the group's thoughts are on perhaps replicating =
some Greene=20
  brackets for doing disk brake conversions? I have two pair squirreled =
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  <DIV>Steve H,</DIV>
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one or=20
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>
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crankshaft=20
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working on=20
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already had=20
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I spent=20
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wouldn't=20
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    <DIV>On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</DIV><BR=20
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    <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"><SPAN=20
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      <DIV>Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing =
this=20
      wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your =
son.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, =
that=20
      socket you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he =
could use=20
      it for guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him.&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as =
soon as=20
      your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>#2Steve K</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
      <DIV=20
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background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial"><B>From:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><A =
title=3Dstrovato@optonline.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.net";>Steven Trovato</A></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><A =
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      href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>List for the Z Magnette =
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
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2013 6:55=20
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>[Zmagnette] Machinist=20
      projects</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>My son is in college in a two year program to =
become a=20
      machinist.&nbsp; It&nbsp;<BR>seems that he needs some proposals =
for=20
      projects he can do there.&nbsp; As&nbsp;<BR>the one paying the =
tuition, I=20
      get to suggest something that would be&nbsp;<BR>of use to me and =
my=20
      MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice =
socket&nbsp;<BR>for the=20
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      any&nbsp;<BR>ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?&nbsp; =
There's no=20
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to fit in=20
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