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Right... Of mixing metaphors I am guilty... Both are good guys and great ass=
ets to our hobby...=20

Steve H

> On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "John Park" <jpark@bmts.com> wrote:
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> No, Liverpool Motorworks is Jerry Labant. Yes he=E2=80=99s a very interest=
ing fellow who sometimes has very good deals on strange and rare items. More=
 than occasionally they are fairly pricey. Jerry lives in Pennsylvania while=
 Rob lives in Michigan. He manufactures his tools which you can buy individu=
ally or as a complete set for a particular MG model. He does have some used s=
tuff but he is more casual about how he sells things and you don=E2=80=99t u=
sually get the big story with each piece. I=E2=80=99ve purchased several too=
ls from him and they seem to be well made and work when I=E2=80=99ve asked t=
hem to. As Allen likes to say, I don=E2=80=99t have any connection to this p=
erson or any financial interest. Here is his web site page off of Google sea=
rches:
> British Tool Company
> Robb Nortier
> 709 Marietta NE
> Grand Rapids, MI 49505
> (616) 363-6666
> britool51@hotmail.com
> http://www.britishtool.com/
> Whitworth, BSF, BSP, BSC, BSW tools. Also makes special factory tools orig=
inally made by Churchill in England.
> WANTED!!!!! British Tool is looking for any quantity of old, used and obso=
lete tools for British Sports cars. If you happen to have any Churchill tool=
s laying around, I'm interested. Also, many customers would like to have tho=
se tool kit tools you have as duplicate or don't know exactly what they belo=
ng to so let me know! DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES:
> BRITISH TOOL has complete design and production facilities available, and w=
ill be happy to undertake custom design of various projects and bring them t=
o completion. Currently on staff is Liliana Teodorescu, an engineer skilled i=
n mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engineering. She has a Master=
s degree in Engineering and has taught at the University of Brasov in Rumani=
a, and L'Ecole Technique De Blida in Algeria. She was awarded the prestigiou=
s Definitive Professor Degree in Rumania in 1976.
> MACHINE SHOP SERVICES AVAILABLE:
> We have a new mill, engine lathe, and several pieces of other production e=
quipment ready and waiting for small jobs. Our journeyman machinist is a vir=
tual artist when it comes to metal work, so if you have an idea, we can make=
 it.
> =20
> =20
> From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net] On Behalf Of Steve Hanegan
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 6:51 PM
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects
> =20
> Rob Nortier of Liverpool Motor Works! Very interesting chap with some real=
ly interesting and unique bits of unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt a=
nd the hose replaced by Rob and when he returned them he also sent some Puro=
lator oil filter dash hanger cards just for grins....
> =20
> I also bought some vintage tyre repair kits and tools from him - very nice=
 stuff at fair prices
> =20
> http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html
> =20
> Steve H
> =20
> =20
> On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, John Park <jpark@bmts.com> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> There=E2=80=99s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist=E2=80=99s summ=
er parties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. Nortier=
, maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one from him ab=
out 10 years ago. Works like a charm.
> =20
> From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects
> =20
> Thanks Lann!  We have a community college in town -  I'll start with them.=
  And thanks also for the Sherline link.
> =20
> Holiday Cheers,
> Allen
> ****************************************************************
> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> ****************************************************************
> =20
> On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM, LannM@aol.com wrote:
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>=20
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> Alan, et al,
> =20
> Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week c=
lasses in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC pro=
gramming and machining.  The cost is reasonable and geezers (60+) get a 20% d=
iscount.  There may be something similar in your area.
> =20
> And, for a good introduction to machining check www.sherline.com.  Their s=
tuff is small, but they are real tools.  Everything you can learn on a Sherl=
ine lathe or mill transfers to full size machines.
> =20
> Lann
> =20
> In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, bachldrs=
@comcast.net writes:
> #2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a c=
ouple old geezer's machining classes.  Anybody know where I can take one or t=
wo or whatever it takes?
> =20
> Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft pulle=
y for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water pum=
p,  would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the crankshaft pull=
ey in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot be choosers...
> =20
> Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on yo=
ur Magnette rear axle.  Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one of th=
ese and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over a w=
eek looking for one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, AND t=
hat I already HAD ONE!! =20
> =20
> If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!
> =20
> Thanks,
> Allen
> ****************************************************************
> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> ****************************************************************
> =20
> On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
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>=20
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> Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this wonderful t=
rade.  Congratulations to you, and to your son.
> =20
> Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket you are=
 talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for guidance, I'd be gla=
d to loan it to him.=20
> =20
> As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your=
 son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.
> =20
> Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!
> =20
> #2Steve K
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steven Trovato
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 PM
> Subject: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects
> =20
> My son is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.  It=20
> seems that he needs some proposals for projects he can do there.  As=20
> the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would be=20
> of use to me and my MGs.  One thought I had was to make a nice socket=20
> for the octagon shaped rear axle nut.  Does anyone else have any=20
> ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?  There's no guarantee that=20
> he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of=20
> the course work.  So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist=20
> at your disposal?  Note that this is not an automotive machinist=20
> program, so they are not set up for operations on engine blocks,=20
> crankshafts, etc.
>=20
> -Steve T.
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ty... Both are good guys and great assets to our hobby...&nbsp;</div><div><b=
r>Steve H</div><div><br>On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "John Park" &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:jpark@bmts.com";>jpark@bmts.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><block=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">No, Liverpool Motorworks is Jerry Labant. Y=
es he=E2=80=99s a very interesting fellow who sometimes has very good deals o=
n strange and rare items. More than occasionally they are fairly pricey. Jer=
ry lives in Pennsylvania while Rob lives in Michigan. He manufactures his to=
ols which you can buy individually or as a complete set for a particular MG m=
odel. He does have some used stuff but he is more casual about how he sells t=
hings and you don=E2=80=99t usually get the big story with each piece. I=E2=80=
=99ve purchased several tools from him and they seem to be well made and wor=
k when I=E2=80=99ve asked them to. As Allen likes to say, I don=E2=80=99t ha=
ve any connection to this person or any financial interest. Here is his web s=
ite page off of Google searches:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><b>British Tool Company<br>Robb Nortier<br>709 Marietta NE<br>Grand Rapids,=
 MI 49505<br>(616) 363-6666<br><a href=3D"mailto:britool51@hotmail.com";>brit=
ool51@hotmail.com</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.britishtool.com/";>http://www.=
britishtool.com/</a><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Whitworth, BSF, BSP, BSC, BSW=
 tools. Also makes special factory tools originally made by Churchill in Eng=
land.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;=
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">WANTED!!!!! British Tool is looking for any quan=
tity of old, used and obsolete tools for British Sports cars. If you happen t=
o have any Churchill tools laying around, I'm interested. Also, many custome=
rs would like to have those tool kit tools you have as duplicate or don't kn=
ow exactly what they belong to so let me know! DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVIC=
ES:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto">BRITISH TOOL has complete design and production fa=
cilities available, and will be happy to undertake custom design of various p=
rojects and bring them to completion. Currently on staff is Liliana Teodores=
cu, an engineer skilled in mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engi=
neering. She has a Masters degree in Engineering and has taught at the Unive=
rsity of Brasov in Rumania, and L'Ecole Technique De Blida in Algeria. She w=
as awarded the prestigious Definitive Professor Degree in Rumania in 1976.<o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-mar=
gin-bottom-alt:auto">MACHINE SHOP SERVICES AVAILABLE:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">=
We have a new mill, engine lathe, and several pieces of other production equ=
ipment ready and waiting for small jobs. Our journeyman machinist is a virtu=
al artist when it comes to metal work, so if you have an idea, we can make i=
t.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt=
;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"> <a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagn=
ette-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net">mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>St=
eve Hanegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 16, 2013 6:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> L=
ist for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnet=
te] Machinist projects<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rob Nortier of Liverpool Moto=
r Works! Very interesting chap with some really interesting and unique bits o=
f unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt and the hose replaced by Rob and w=
hen he returned them he also sent some Purolator oil filter dash hanger card=
s just for grins....<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also bought some vintage tyre re=
pair kits and tools from him - very nice stuff at fair prices<o:p></o:p></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><a href=3D"http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html";>http://=
www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">St=
eve H<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, John Park &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jpar=
k@bmts.com">jpark@bmts.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin=
-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Ther=
e=E2=80=99s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist=E2=80=99s summer par=
ties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. Nortier, mayb=
e Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one from him about 10=
 years ago. Works like a charm.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in=
 0in"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";><span style=3D"color:purple">=
zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</span></a><span class=3D"apple-converted-sp=
ace">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-<a href=3D"mailto:bounces@autox.team.net=
"><span style=3D"color:purple">bounces@autox.team.net</span></a>]<span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=3D"apple-=
converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM<br=
><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z=
 Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"apple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects</span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks Lann! &nbsp;We have a community college=
 in town - &nbsp;I'll start with them. &nbsp;And thanks also for the Sherlin=
e link.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Holiday Cheers,<o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">****************************************************************</s=
pan></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-=
size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">'57 ZB,=
 '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">North Street, MI 48049, USA</spa=
n></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href=3D"http://www.mgexper=
ience.net/member/bachldrs"><span style=3D"color:purple">http://www.mgexperie=
nce.net/member/bachldrs</span></a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">****************************************************************</span><=
/span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 16, 201=
3, at 2:31 PM,<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"=
mailto:LannM@aol.com";><span style=3D"color:purple">LannM@aol.com</span></a><=
span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockqu=
ote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div id=3D"role_body"><di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Alan, et al,</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Here in NE Oklah=
oma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week classes in auto bod=
y, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC programming and machi=
ning.&nbsp; The cost is reasonable and geezers (60+) get a 20% discount.&nbs=
p; There may be something similar in your area.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
/div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">And, for a good intro=
duction to machining check<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span=
><a href=3D"http://www.sherline.com/";><span style=3D"color:purple">www.sherl=
ine.com</span></a>.&nbsp; Their stuff is small, but they are real tools.&nbs=
p; Everything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full si=
ze machines.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;">Lann</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P=
.M. Central Standard Time,<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span=
><a href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net";><span style=3D"color:purple">bachld=
rs@comcast.net</span></a><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>=
writes:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;bo=
rder-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;marg=
in-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">#2 S=
teveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a couple o=
ld geezer's machining classes. &nbsp;Anybody know where I can take one or tw=
o or whatever it takes?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serp=
entine crankshaft pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching p=
ulley for the water pump, &nbsp;would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferab=
ly, make the crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but begga=
rs cannot be choosers...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when y=
ou get to working on your Magnette rear axle. &nbsp;Unlike you, I totally fo=
rgot I already had one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the t=
rick. ' Bet I spent over a week looking for one before I realized even the r=
ight size wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! &nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If I get a=
ny more ideas, I'll share them!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Allen</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i>=
<span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">***************************************************************=
*</span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">'57=
 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">North Street, MI 48049, USA<=
/span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href=3D"http://www.mge=
xperience.net/member/bachldrs" title=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/b=
achldrs"><span style=3D"color:purple">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bac=
hldrs</span></a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size:9.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">**************=
**************************************************</span></span><o:p></o:p><=
/p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</spa=
n><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">On De=
c 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetic=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Wow, that's great in the first place, that h=
e is pursuing this wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to you=
r son.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great exp=
ense, that socket you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he co=
uld use it for guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=
As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your s=
on gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks for=
 thinking up a great offer, though!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">#2Steve K</span><o:p></o:=
p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black 1=
.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-ri=
ght:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">----=
- Original Message -----</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><sp=
an class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><=
a href=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.net"; title=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.=
net"><span style=3D"color:purple">Steven Trovato</span></a></span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">To:</span></b=
><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;"><a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net"; title=3D"mailto:zmagnette@aut=
ox.team.net"><span style=3D"color:purple">List for the Z Magnette Group - No=
rth America</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sent:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converted-spac=
e"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 P=
M</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">Subject:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbs=
p;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">[Zmagnette] Machinist projects</span><o:p></o:p></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">My son is=
 in college in a two year program to become a machinist.&nbsp; It<span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>seems that he needs some proposa=
ls for projects he can do there.&nbsp; As<span class=3D"apple-converted-spac=
e">&nbsp;</span><br>the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something t=
hat would be<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>of use to=
 me and my MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice socket<span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>for the octagon shaped rear axle=
 nut.&nbsp; Does anyone else have any<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&=
nbsp;</span><br>ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?&nbsp; There's no g=
uarantee that<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>he will d=
o it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of<span class=3D"ap=
ple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>the course work.&nbsp; So, what would y=
ou guys do if you had a machinist<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span><br>at your disposal?&nbsp; Note that this is not an automotive mach=
inist<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>program, so they=
 are not set up for operations on engine blocks,<span class=3D"apple-convert=
ed-space">&nbsp;</span><br>crankshafts, etc.<br><br>-Steve T.<br><br>_______=
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