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Allen.
The bell housings are the same depth. There are four different designs for =
the B series. Three for the small, early bell housing and flywheel - low mo=
unt starter MGA, high mount starter MGA, early MGB (different starter locat=
ion), late MGB with all synchro trans.
Shifter location is determined by an offset arm welded to the bottom of the=
stick.
I installed a T9 in my Magnette and I had to cut a small half circle at the=
rear of the original opening. Then move the shifter cover assembly back ab=
out an inch. There is no conflict with the hand brake.
The claim of no sheet metal modification is a bit optimistic. In addition t=
o the shifter location, the ribs near the front of the tunnel need to be bu=
mped upwards to clear the taller transmission. Not a big deal on a lift, bu=
t a PITA without one. I had a friend stay in the car and hold a heavy chunk=
of iron (railroad track) against the tunnel, while I hammered from below w=
ith a big 'ammer.
I am very happy with the conversion in my car. The shift feel is similar to=
original. The supplied shift lever accepts the original knob and is in the=
original position, so it's virtually impossible to tell a conversion was d=
one.
Kelvin.
From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team=
.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 9:38 AM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] 4 synchro MGB trans in ZB
Charlie,
I just looked at the Hi Gear website (http://hi-gearengineering.co.uk/conte=
nt/view/16/31/) and note that the Z Magnette kit includes a bell housing de=
signed for the MGA. Could this be shorter than the MGB 4-sync one? Furth=
er I note that Hi Gear offers conversions for both 3-sync and 4-sync MGBs a=
nd they claim that no holes need to be drilled and no metal needs to be cut=
. The 4-sync trans is longer, so if the MGB Hi Gear kit you're offered is=
for a 4-sync car, then the shift lever will come through the tunnel furth=
er back.
Two courses of action:
1.) It is likely that the shift lever will not come through as far back as=
the parking brake handle. My yardstick here is the Datsun/Rivergate and Ri=
vergate advertises that the shifter will come through the original hole on =
4-sync MGBs. To make it fit on my Magnette I did have to trim the hole bac=
k (1-1/2 to 2" is sufficient). I did move the brake handle back 1-1/8" and =
raised the front bracket so the thumb release would clear the shifter turre=
t comfortably.
2.) Contact Hi Gear. Tell them what you have and ask what you need to make =
the T9 transmission fit your Magnette. They charge =A3805 for the complete=
kit (not including gearbox) and =A3625 for the gearbox itself. That comes =
out to about $2230 US - so figure your savings on the used conversion and c=
alculate how much more you might like to spend before you eradicate your s=
avings. I would hope that the only difference would be the bell housing an=
d that you could buy just a new one without the whole kit - at considerable=
savings. Maybe you could even get a core charge for the one you have.
Whatever you do, contact Bruce Woodson about your options. He's importing a=
nd installing a lot of these now.
Holiday Cheers,
Allen
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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Allen. <o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The bell housings are the same depth. There ar=
e four different designs for the B series. Three for the small, early bell =
housing and flywheel – low mount starter MGA, high mount starter MGA,=
early MGB (different starter location), late MGB with all synchro trans. <=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri=
","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Shifter location is determined by an offset a=
rm welded to the bottom of the stick. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";co=
lor:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I in=
stalled a T9 in my Magnette and I had to cut a small half circle at the rea=
r of the original opening. Then move the shifter cover assembly back about =
an inch. There is no conflict with the hand brake. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p=
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
<span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1=
F497D'>The claim of no sheet metal modification is a bit optimistic. In add=
ition to the shifter location, the ribs near the front of the tunnel need t=
o be bumped upwards to clear the taller transmission. Not a big deal on a l=
ift, but a PITA without one. I had a friend stay in the car and hold a heav=
y chunk of iron (railroad track) against the tunnel, while I hammered from =
below with a big ‘ammer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F4=
97D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am very happ=
y with the conversion in my car. The shift feel is similar to original. The=
supplied shift lever accepts the original knob and is in the original posi=
tion, so it’s virtually impossible to tell a conversion was done. <o:=
p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kelvin. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNor=
mal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";colo=
r:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0p=
t 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [m=
ailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen Bachelder=
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 02, 2013 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> List for t=
he Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] 4 sy=
nchro MGB trans in ZB<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Charlie,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I jus=
t looked at the Hi Gear website (<a href=3D"http://hi-gearengineering.co.uk=
/content/view/16/31/">http://hi-gearengineering.co.uk/content/view/16/31/</=
a>) and note that the Z Magnette kit includes a bell housing designed for t=
he MGA. Could this be shorter than the MGB 4-sync one? Fu=
rther I note that Hi Gear offers conversions for both 3-sync and 4-sync MGB=
s and they claim that no holes need to be drilled and no metal needs to be =
cut. The 4-sync trans is longer, so if the MGB Hi Gear kit you'=
re offered is for a 4-sync car, then the shift lever will come throug=
h the tunnel further back. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Two courses of ac=
tion: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p>=
</p></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p=
class=3DMsoNormal>1.) It is likely that the shift lever will not com=
e through as far back as the parking brake handle. My yardstick here is the=
Datsun/Rivergate and Rivergate advertises that the shifter will come throu=
gh the original hole on 4-sync MGBs. To make it fit on my Magnette I =
did have to trim the hole back (1-1/2 to 2" is sufficient). I did move=
the brake handle back 1-1/8" and raised the front bracket so the thum=
b release would clear the shifter turret comfortably.<o:p></o:p></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al>2.) Contact Hi Gear. Tell them what you have and ask what you need to ma=
ke the T9 transmission fit your Magnette. They charge =A3805 for the =
complete kit (not including gearbox) and =A3625 for the gearbox itself. Tha=
t comes out to about $2230 US - so figure your savings on the used conversi=
on and calculate how much more you might like to spend before you eradicate=
your savings. I would hope that the only difference would be t=
he bell housing and that you could buy just a new one without the whole kit=
- at considerable savings. Maybe you could even get a core charge fo=
r the one you have. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:=
p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=3DMsoNormal>Whatever you do, =
contact Bruce Woodson about your options. He's importing and installing a l=
ot of these now.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Holiday Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n=
bsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>=
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