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Steve:
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I don't think there is any correlation between body numbers and serial =20
numbers. My Magnette is KALA 13 35486, only 125 cars later than yours. T=
he=20
body number on mine is ZB034000, that's a 4262 delta.
I've noticed the same thing on my other MGs. I don't think Pressed Steel=
=20
or MG practiced FIFO.
=20
Lann
=20
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In a message dated 11/28/2013 9:39:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, =20
steve@betterwitnesses.com writes:
John,
Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number. =
=20
As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to=
=20
the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before=20
they were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a=
=20
chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number=
=20
KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October through 17 October 1958. John =
=20
Drake attempted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chass=
is=20
numbers of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was=
=20
successful.
Steve
On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <_jpark@bmts.com_=20
(mailto:jpark@bmts.com) > wrote:
=20
=20
Hi Paul,=20
Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. Always nice to have someo=
ne explain how =20
others do things versus what is familiar to ourselves. What can you tell me=
=20
about the body numbers? Do all Z=E2=80=99s have one or only the Varitones?=
Mine is=20
something like 7595. I have to dig out some paperwork to find it as the =
=20
problem painter failed to mask the number plate and it is very hard to =20
decipher a number in its current state. I=E2=80=99m torn between leaving i=
t as is or=20
sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located on the driver=E2=80=
=99s side=20
inner fender near the upper lip about 2 feet from the builder=E2=80=99s p=
late.=20
Regards,=20
John=20
=20
=20
From: _zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net_=20
(mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net) [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox=
.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Barrow
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster
Hi John=20
You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in=20
that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE=
=E2=80=A6=20
bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is=20
completely correct.=20
Paul=20
=20
Paul Barrow=20
153 Clemons Road=20
Montesano, WA 98563 USA=20
+1 360 249 5123 Landline=20
+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone=20
+1 360 249 3776 Fax=20
_Paul.Barrow@centurytel.net_ (mailto:Paul.Barrow@centurytel.net)=20
=20
=20
____________________________________
=20
From: _zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net_=20
(mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net) [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox=
.team.net] On Behalf Of John Park
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:45 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster
There is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial numbe=
r for=20
the car or the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s only Vari=
tones that have=20
body numbers or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do engine=
=20
numbers too? Just some more thoughts/questions.=20
=20
=20
From: _zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net_=20
(mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net) [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox=
.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen=20
Bachelder
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster
Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in=20
three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster? =
We=20
can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members. Granted that NAMGAR does=
=20
the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or =
fun=20
to have our own casual records. Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have=
=20
some sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some=20
subtle mid-model changes that affect technical concerns. I'll propose tha=
t each=20
of us can pursue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in=20
being able to include this in the data. It would be neat to be able to sea=
rch=20
our cars by chassis number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike=
=20
need do nothing more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file=
,=20
allowing one to organize and search by chassis number. =20
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This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will=
=20
tell the story and I'll let it go. It's no big deal...=20
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Cheers,
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Allen=20
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Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
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'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
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North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs=20
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On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:
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Howdy all,
That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in=
=20
July, so we're about due for a new one.
But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new=20
members since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an=
=20
old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here=
's what=20
can go into it:
Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has=
=20
ever asked for that.)
Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, country.
Up to two phone numbers
Email address
Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
Services provided
Comments
Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status
Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior=20
top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my c=
ar,=20
an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:
Year: 1958 Make: MG Model: ZBV Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon Status:=
=20
Always a driver
You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.
For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries=20
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited garage space."=
to=20
"Cold beer on hand at all times."
Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.
And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and=20
the line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest=
=20
cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.
If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still=20
thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.
Let me know at _mikesmuseum@yahoo.com_ (mailto:mikesmuseum@yahoo.com) if=
=20
you have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam everyone=
.
Thanks!
Mike Jacobsen
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On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <_bachldrs@comcast.net_=20
(mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net) > wrote:
Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
To: "zmagnette" <_zmagnette@autox.team.net_=20
(mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net) >, "John Taft" <_jtaft89@gmail.com_ (mai=
lto:jtaft89@gmail.com) >
Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM
Everybody...=20
... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when=
=20
the next revision is coming out. ....
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<DIV>I don't think there is any correlation between body numbers and serial=
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yours. The body number on mine is ZB034000, that's a 4262 delta.</DIV=
>
<DIV>I've noticed the same thing on my other MGs. I don't think Press=
ed=20
Steel or MG practiced FIFO.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lann</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/28/2013 9:39:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20
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<DIV>John,</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis nu=
mber.=20
As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance =
to=20
the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before =
they=20
were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a=20
chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis numb=
er=20
KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October through 17 October 1958.=
John=20
Drake attempted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and cha=
ssis=20
numbers of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he wa=
s=20
successful.<BR><BR>Steve</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <<A=20
title=3Dmailto:jpark@bmts.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jpark@bmts.com";>jpark@bmts.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV=
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Paul,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: =
11pt"> =20
Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. Always nice to have s=
omeone explain how=20
others do things versus what is familiar to ourselves. What can you tel=
l me=20
about the body numbers? Do all Z=E2=80=99s have one or only the Variton=
es? Mine is=20
something like 7595. I have to dig out some paperwork to find it as the=
=20
problem painter failed to mask the number plate and it is very hard to=
=20
decipher a number in its current state. I=E2=80=99m torn between =
leaving it as=20
is or sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located on the dri=
ver=E2=80=99s=20
side inner fender near the upper lip about 2 feet from the builde=
r=E2=80=99s=20
plate.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: =
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Regards,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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John<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> <A=20
title=3Dmailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagnette-bounces@auto=
x.team.net</A>=20
[<A title=3Dmailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:zmagnette-bounc=
es@autox.team.net</A>]=20
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Paul Barrow<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 28, =
2013=20
9:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North=20
America'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG=20
Roster<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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John<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t">You=20
are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in tha=
t the=20
British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE=E2=80=
=A6 bit) is=20
referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is completely=
=20
correct.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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t">Paul=20
Barrow</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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t">153=20
Clemons Road</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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WA 98563 USA</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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360 249 5123 Landline</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"><O:P></O:P></SP=
AN></P>
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360 500 9389 Cell phone</SPAN><SPAN=20
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AN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A=20
title=3Dmailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagnette-bounces@auto=
x.team.net</A>=20
[<A title=3Dmailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=20
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>John Park<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 28, 20=
13=20
6:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North=20
America'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG=20
Roster</SPAN><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">There=20
is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial number f=
or the car or=20
the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s only Varitones th=
at have body numbers=20
or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do engine numbers to=
o?=20
Just some more thoughts/questions.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P>
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> <A=20
title=3Dmailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>zmagnette-bounces@auto=
x.team.net</A>=20
[<A title=3Dmailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:zmagnette-bounc=
es@autox.team.net</A>]=20
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Allen Bachelder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November=
27,=20
2013 8:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B> List for the Z Magnette Group - North=20
America<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG=20
Roster<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><O:P> </O:P></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Something just occurred to me - it's a question th=
at can=20
be answered in three ways as I see it: should we include chassis number=
s in=20
the roster? We can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.=20
Granted that NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on=
=20
occasion it might be handy and/or fun to have our own casual records.=
=20
Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have some sequentially-rela=
ted=20
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this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to inc=
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number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing mo=
re, a=20
member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to=20
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<P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Howdy all,<BR><BR>=
That's a=20
darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in Jul=
y, so=20
we're about due for a new one.<BR><BR>But I've been lax, and haven't=
=20
gathered any info from most of the new members since July So, if you=
=20
joined in the past half year, or you're an old-timer that never subsc=
ribed=20
to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what can go into=20
it:<BR><BR>Your first name, middle initial, and last name.<BR>Your SO=
's=20
first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has e=
ver=20
asked for that.)<BR>Address: Street, city, state/province, postal cod=
e,=20
country.<BR>Up to two phone numbers<BR>Email address<BR>Special-inter=
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cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)<BR>Services=20
provided<BR>Comments<BR><BR>Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Mo=
del,=20
Color, Status<BR><BR>Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-t=
one=20
cars, it's exterior top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example,=
=20
here's the entry for my car, an Old English White over Birch Grey Var=
itone=20
with maroon interior:<BR><BR>Year: 1958 Make: MG Model: Z=
BV=20
Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon Status: Always a=20
driver<BR><BR>You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take=
care=20
of that.<BR><BR>For Services, people tend to write about help they ca=
n=20
provide. Entries range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & he=
lp,=20
limited garage space." to "Cold beer on hand at all=20
times."<BR><BR>Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.<BR><B=
R>And=20
it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and t=
he=20
line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interes=
t=20
cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some=20
history.<BR><BR>If you haven't already, send me your info now, while =
we're=20
all still thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next=20
month.<BR><BR>Let me know at <A title=3Dmailto:mikesmuseum@yahoo.com=
=20
href=3D"mailto:mikesmuseum@yahoo.com";>mikesmuseum@yahoo.com</A> if yo=
u have=20
any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam=20
everyone.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>Mike=20
Jacobsen<BR><BR>--------------------------------------------<BR>On We=
d,=20
11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <<A title=3Dmailto:bachldrs@comcast.net=
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href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net";>bachldrs@comcast.net</A>>=20
wrote:<BR><BR>Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member<BR>To: "zmagnette" <=
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href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net";>zmagnette@autox.team.net</A>=
>,=20
"John Taft" <<A title=3Dmailto:jtaft89@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jtaft89@gmail.com";>jtaft89@gmail.com</A>><BR>Date:=
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Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<BR><BR>Everybody... <BR>.=
..=20
Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us whe=
n the=20
next revision is coming out.=20
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