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John,
Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number. As=
near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to th=
e Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before they w=
ere despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a chassis=
/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number KAA41/3=
5361 and a build date of 14 October through 17 October 1958. John Drake att=
empted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chassis numbers=
of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was successf=
ul.
Steve
> On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <jpark@bmts.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Paul,
> Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. Always nice t=
o have someone explain how others do things versus what is familiar to ourse=
lves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z=E2=80=99s have o=
ne or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to dig out som=
e paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask the number plat=
e and it is very hard to decipher a number in its current state. I=E2=80=99=
m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the paint off to see the number. I=
t is located on the driver=E2=80=99s side inner fender near the upper lip a=
bout 2 feet from the builder=E2=80=99s plate.
> Regards,
> John
> =20
> From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net] On Behalf Of Paul Barrow
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM
> To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster
> =20
> Hi John
> =20
> You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in th=
at the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE=E2=80=
=A6 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is com=
pletely correct.
> =20
> Paul
> =20
> Paul Barrow
> 153 Clemons Road
> Montesano, WA 98563 USA
> +1 360 249 5123 Landline
> +1 360 500 9389 Cell phone
> +1 360 249 3776 Fax
> Paul.Barrow@centurytel.net
> From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net] On Behalf Of John Park
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:45 PM
> To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster
> =20
> There is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial numbe=
r for the car or the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s only V=
aritones that have body numbers or if they all have a body number. Maybe we s=
hould do engine numbers too? Just some more thoughts/questions.
> =20
> From: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.tea=
m.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster
> =20
> Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in th=
ree ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster? We c=
an say yes, no, or leave it up to the members. Granted that NAMGAR does the=
registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or fun t=
o have our own casual records. Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have s=
ome sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some subtle m=
id-model changes that affect technical concerns. I'll propose that each of u=
s can pursue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being abl=
e to include this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our car=
s by chassis number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do no=
thing more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing o=
ne to organize and search by chassis number. =20
> =20
> This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will=
tell the story and I'll let it go. It's no big deal...
> =20
> Cheers,
> Allen
> ****************************************************************
> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> ****************************************************************
> =20
> On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:
> =20
>=20
> Howdy all,
>=20
> That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in=
July, so we're about due for a new one.
>=20
> But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new memb=
ers since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an old-tim=
er that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what c=
an go into it:
>=20
> Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
> Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has e=
ver asked for that.)
> Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, country.
> Up to two phone numbers
> Email address
> Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
> Services provided
> Comments
>=20
> Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status
>=20
> Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior to=
p/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, a=
n Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:
>=20
> Year: 1958 Make: MG Model: ZBV Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon Status:=
Always a driver
>=20
> You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.
>=20
> For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries ra=
nge from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited garage space." to "=
Cold beer on hand at all times."
>=20
> Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.
>=20
> And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and th=
e line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest car=
s (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.
>=20
> If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still think=
ing of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.
>=20
> Let me know at mikesmuseum@yahoo.com if you have any questions. Please don=
't reply to the group and spam everyone.
>=20
> Thanks!
>=20
> Mike Jacobsen
>=20
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
> Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
> To: "zmagnette" <zmagnette@autox.team.net>, "John Taft" <jtaft89@gmail.com=
>
> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM
>=20
> Everybody...=20
> ... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when=
the next revision is coming out. ....
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>John,</div><div><br></div><div>Every M=
agnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number. As near a=
s I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to the Press=
ed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before they were de=
spached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a chassis/car n=
umber. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number KAA41/35361 a=
nd a build date of 14 October through 17 October 1958. John Drake atte=
mpted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chassis numbers o=
f the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was successful=
.<br><br>Steve</div><div><br>On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <<a=
href=3D"mailto:jpark@bmts.com">jpark@bmts.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
;sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",&quo=
t;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> =
Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. A=
lways nice to have someone explain how others do things versus what is famil=
iar to ourselves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z=E2=80=
=99s have one or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to d=
ig out some paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask the n=
umber plate and it is very hard to decipher a number in its current st=
ate. I=E2=80=99m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the paint off to s=
ee the number. It is located on the driver=E2=80=99s side inner fender near t=
he upper lip about 2 feet from the builder=E2=80=99s plate.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> =
Regards,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> &n=
bsp; John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div st=
yle=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> <a href=3D=
"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a> [<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:zmagnette-bou=
nces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Barrow<br><b>Sent:</b> Thu=
rsday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for the Z Magnette Grou=
p - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",&q=
uot;sans-serif";color:navy">Hi John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","=
;sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","san=
s-serif";color:navy">You are correct in that they are monocoque however=
you are incorrect in that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the=
VIN number (the KAE=E2=80=A6 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number s=
o in a sense Allen is completely correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",&quo=
t;sans-serif";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sa=
ns-serif";color:navy">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-ser=
if";color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se=
rif";color:navy">Paul Barrow</span><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">153 Clemons Road</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-ser=
if";color:navy">Montesano, WA 98563 USA</span><span style=3D"color:navy=
"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">+1 360 2=
49 5123 Landline</span><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:navy">+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone</span><sp=
an style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
;;color:navy">+1 360 249 3776 Fax</span><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy"><a href=3D"mailto:P=
aul.Barrow@centurytel.net">Paul.Barrow@centurytel.net</a></span><o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:=
center"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",&q=
uot;sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href=3D"mailto:zmagnett=
e-bounces@autox.team.net">zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [<a href=3D"m=
ailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Park<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 28=
, 2013 6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'=
<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";co=
lor:#1F497D">There is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the s=
erial number for the car or the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=
=99s only Varitones that have body numbers or if they all have a body number=
. Maybe we should do engine numbers too? Just some more thoughts/questions.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1=
.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&q=
uot;sans-serif""> <a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net">z=
magnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net">mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM<br><b=
>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Something just occurred to m=
e - it's a question that can be answered in three ways as I see it: should w=
e include chassis numbers in the roster? We can say yes, no, or leave i=
t up to the members. Granted that NAMGAR does the registration aspects=
of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or fun to have our own casual=
records. Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have some sequentially=
-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some subtle mid-model changes=
that affect technical concerns. I'll propose that each of us can purs=
ue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to inclu=
de this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our cars by chass=
is number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing more=
, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to &nbs=
p;organize and search by chassis number. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This may b=
e of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will tell the st=
ory and I'll let it go. It's no big deal...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheer=
s,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div>=
<div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i=
><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans=
-serif";color:black">**************************************************=
**************</span></i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif&=
quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Allen & Florrie Bachel=
der =3Diii=3D<<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs<=
/span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C=
/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:90.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-=
family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">North Stree=
t, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D=
"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"He=
lvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><a href=3D"http://www.mgex=
perience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a=
></span></i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-=
size:13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div=
><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font=
-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">**********=
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:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote styl=
e=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Howdy all,<br><br>That's a darn good idea, updatin=
g the Roster. The last version came out in July, so we're about due for a ne=
w one.<br><br>But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of t=
he new members since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're=
an old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. He=
re's what can go into it:<br><br>Your first name, middle initial, and last n=
ame.<br>Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - n=
o one has ever asked for that.)<br>Address: Street, city, state/province, po=
stal code, country.<br>Up to two phone numbers<br>Email address<br>Special-i=
nterest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)<br>Services provided<br>Comments<=
br><br>Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status<br><br>Co=
lors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior top/ex=
terior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, an O=
ld English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:<br><br>Year:=
1958 Make: MG Model: ZBV Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon &=
nbsp;Status: Always a driver<br><br>You don't have to worry about the format=
ting; I'll take care of that.<br><br>For Services, people tend to write abou=
t help they can provide. Entries range from "Tools, some parts, can come out=
& help, limited garage space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."<br>=
<br>Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.<br><br>And it's all opt=
ional. One person just has his name, email address, and the line for his Mag=
nette. Other people include all their special-interest cars (we don't list m=
otorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.<br><br>If you haven't alread=
y, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, and I'll sen=
d out an updated roster next month.<br><br>Let me know at <a href=3D"mailto:=
mikesmuseum@yahoo.com">mikesmuseum@yahoo.com</a> if you have any questions. P=
lease don't reply to the group and spam everyone.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Mike=
Jacobsen<br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, 11/=
27/13, Allen Bachelder <<a href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@comcast.net">bachldrs@=
comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member<br>To: "zm=
agnette" <<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette@autox.team.net">zmagnette@autox.tea=
m.net</a>>, "John Taft" <<a href=3D"mailto:jtaft89@gmail.com">jtaft89@=
gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<br><br>Eve=
rybody... <br>... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he c=
an remind us when the next revision is coming out. ....<br><br>_____________=
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