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I=E2=80=99d pull the distributor and see if the pump will then fit. And =
then place the distributor back into the engine.
JVV
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From: Wpta <wpta-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary Fredo via =
Wpta
Sent: Tuesday, July 4, 2023 3:27 PM
To: WPTA <wpta@autox.team.net>; Tim Prell <tjprell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WPTA] 1500 Spitfire oil pump install
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>From looking at the repair manual and parts manual it looks like it =
should slide right in. It's been a long time since I've had an oil pump =
out of a Spitfire engine. Probably 30 years so mostly going by memory =
which isn't too good. Anyway, you mentioned below that "nothing was =
moved or loosened at the distributor". Actually you spun the camshaft =
and the distributor when you spun the crankshaft. I think the oil pump =
shaft slot (at the bottom of the distributor) is slightly off center so =
you may have to spin the oil pump shaft 180 degrees to get them to line =
up. That's about all I can think of right now.
=20
Hope that helps.
=20
Gary=20
=20
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 12:48:12 PM EDT, Tim Prell via Wpta =
=20
=20
I started the process of replacing thrust washers in my 77 Spitfire this =
spring and after encouragement from a Triumph Spitfire restoration and =
support forum, also tried replacing main bearings and rod bearings in =
place.(for better or worse). In order to access the mid-crank rod =
bearing bolts, I removed the oil pump (cover plate, inner rotor, outer =
rotor shaft assembly). Now that all the work is complete and the engine =
spins as expected, the oil pump inner rotor and shaft will not slide =
fully back into place - it fits into its slot but stops at ~ 1 - 1.5" =
from fully inserted.=20
I can see the slot at the end of the distributor assembly and a second =
opening in a plate for the inner rotor and shaft to slip through which =
must be blocking the shaft. The inner rotor shaft assembly spins easily. =
Any ideas on what can be displaced that won't allow the shaft to =
completely slide into place would be helpful. Nothing was moved or =
loosened at the distributor - I only worked on the lower end to replace =
thrust washers and main plus rod bearings. Some pics attached.
=20
thanks for feedback (at least serious feedback :-).
=20
Tim
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99d pull the =
distributor and see if the pump will then fit. And then place the =
distributor back into the engine.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>JVV<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Wpta =
<wpta-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary Fredo via =
Wpta<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 4, 2023 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> WPTA =
<wpta@autox.team.net>; Tim Prell =
<tjprell@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [WPTA] 1500 Spitfire =
oil pump install<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>From =
looking at the repair manual and parts manual it looks like it should =
slide right in. It's been a long time since I've had an oil pump =
out of a Spitfire engine. Probably 30 years so mostly going by =
memory which isn't too good. Anyway, you mentioned below that =
"nothing was moved or loosened at the distributor". =
Actually you spun the camshaft and the distributor when you spun the =
crankshaft. I think the oil pump shaft slot (at the bottom of the =
distributor) is slightly off center so you may have to spin the oil pump =
shaft 180 degrees to get them to line up. That's about all I can =
think of right now.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hope that =
helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Gary <=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 12:48:12 PM EDT, Tim Prell via Wpta =
<<a href=3D"mailto:wpta@autox.team.net";>wpta@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp95f63d8eyiv4585337022><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#050505'>I =
started the process of replacing thrust washers in my 77 Spitfire this =
spring and after encouragement from a Triumph Spitfire restoration and =
support forum, also tried replacing main bearings and rod bearings in =
place.(for better or worse). In order to access the mid-crank rod =
bearing bolts, I removed the oil pump (cover plate, inner rotor, outer =
rotor shaft assembly). Now that all the work is complete and the engine =
spins as expected, the oil pump inner rotor and shaft will not slide =
fully back into place - it fits into its slot but stops at ~ 1 - =
1.5" from fully inserted. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
style=3D'margin-top:6.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#050505'>I =
can see the slot at the end of the distributor assembly and a second =
opening in a plate for the inner rotor and shaft to slip through which =
must be blocking the shaft. The inner rotor shaft assembly spins easily. =
Any ideas on what can be displaced that won't allow the shaft to =
completely slide into place would be helpful. Nothing was moved or =
loosened at the distributor - I only worked on the lower end to replace =
thrust washers and main plus rod bearings. Some pics =
attached.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#050505'><o:p=
> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"inherit",serif;color:#050505'>than=
ks for feedback (at least serious feedback =
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