How much do you pay for solendoids, and is there anything that you've done
internal to the solenoid itself? Clubines have been selling me the bare
motor (motor and solenoid, but no nose casting) for about $120 rebuilt, and
new solenoids for about $50.
At 10:24 PM 6/9/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Brian
>
>Yup - its generally the solenoid - although I did have the notor
>windings GUTG first summer [Give Up The Ghost]. Tony somebody in IL
>rebuilts both motors and solenoids with "vibration resistant" windings.
>When I met him in 1996 I told him what I had done and he sheepishly said
>"You're on the right track".
>
>Use plenty of silicone to stop loose leads inside the casing from
>vibrating. I removed the "through casing" insulated connector and just
>siliconed a longer lead in its place.
>
>Obviously this does nothing for the windings themselves but so far I've
>had better luck. Maybe that's just it - luck.
>
>My local starter rebuilder sold me spare solenoids with out motor or
>gearbox - course I had to order 10 dozen. No.
>
>Carry spares.
>
>Check that starter still works EVERY time you come OFF the track. That
>gives you time to change it before the next session.
>
>Derek
>
>
>Brian Evans wrote:
>>
>> Fantastic time! We were at Shannonville at the weekend, I did a 1:17 on the
>> pro track and finished second overall, 6 seconds back from Gord Lowe's
>> Merlyn FFord. I was very chuffed, to be sure! But the starter motor quit
>> after three race sessions.
>>
>> So I'm running a big ford, just under 1.9 litres, and running up to 7000
>> rpm. My theory is that the vibration beats up the solenoid. What is your
>> experience - does the motor itself give problems usually, or can you fix it
>> by changing the solenoid? What do the guys with BDD's do? Those have about
>> the same stroke as my motor (85mm bore by 82mm stroke).
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> At 05:41 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Brian
>> >
>> >9000 rpm engines beat the shit out of them - visit any big rig with
>> >Atlantic or Chevron etc - they carry dozens of spares!
>> >
>> >But last weekend I had a bad battery and it spark eroded one of the
>> >solenoid contacts - so it clicked but didn't contact.
>> >
>> >But 2m07 on Sunday made it all worthwhile!
>> >
>> >Derek
>> >
>> >
>> >Brian Evans wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm having trouble with my Hitachi starter too - what's wrong with yours?
>> >>
>> >> Brian
>> >>
>> >> At 12:17 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >OK - I stand corrected - maybe I over reacted to JYS's comments because
>> >> >I was in the middle of losing Friday's track sessions while I fixed my
>> >> >Japanese starter [which replaced a perfectly functional and reliable
>> >> >Lucas one].
>> >> >
>> >> >By the way he was a very eloquent, knowledgeable and interesting
>> >> >speaker.
>> >> >
>> >> >Derek
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Patrick Young wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Must say I agree wholeheartedly with David. Technology will find a
way...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not that JYS is being incorrect in what he says for now...but I
mean all
>> >> >> we're talking about is manpower. I mean starting pre war Auto
Unions takes
>> >> >> as I recall a three hour routine (this was why one could not be
started at
>> >> >> the Louis Vuitton Hurlingham Club concours a few years back because
by the
>> >> >> time somebody read the regulations at lunchtime, it was already too
>> late for
>> >> >> a 3 pm fire-up!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh, and David, I'll happily be one of your seven push starters,
assistants
>> >> >> or whatever, if you can find the F1 car donor!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Patrick
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Derek,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I'm nothing like as miserable about the future. A couple of years ago
>> >> >> >people were saying that all the computerised gizmos on road cars
wouldn't
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> >repairable and all of todays 'future classics' would become inanimate
>> >> >> >hulks. Engine management systems are available off the shelf for
>> >> >> motorsport
>> >> >> >applications and can easily be mapped to replace standard equipment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >In 10-20 years time the jobs of those seven people will be on the
>> chip. If
>> >> >> >the role is something like shovelling dry ice into the rad intakes
then
>> >> >> >someone will have come up with a free standing chiller with a
valve into
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >cooling system like today we plug booster batteries in. F1 is a
world of
>> >> >> >tiny lead times. Historic Motorsport is a world of almost infinite
>> >> >> >reflection. We'll think of a way.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Then again - if I could get a ride in an F1 car I'd have no problem
>> finding
>> >> >> >seven friends to give me a bump start!!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >David
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Derek Harling wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Quote from Jackie Stewart at this weekend's vintage races at The
Glen -
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - you guys better enjoy your current vintage racing because there
>> is no
>> >> >> >> way you can expect to race today's F1 cars in, say, 10-20 years. For
>> >> >> >> instance - it takes a team of seven just to start the engine.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Brian Evans
>> >> Director, Global Sales
>> >> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company
>> >
>> Brian Evans
>> Director, Global Sales
>> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company
>
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