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Re: starter motor help needed

To: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>
Subject: Re: starter motor help needed
From: Robert McCurdy <rmccurdy@quicklink.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:51:31 -0400
Brian,

Oops, sorry, I was afraid I might stick my foot in it there.  When I've seen the
FF's run with VSCDA, it's been all open-wheel stuff.

R.

Brian Evans wrote:

> I think that F Ford is actually one of the cleaner classes when it comes to
> displacement.  I think they tend to cheat (presuming that they ever do ;o))
> with things like extra compression, a little extra cam timing, valve lift,
> and so on.
>
> My car is a class 5E sports racer, so I can run up to 2 litres.  VARAC runs
> everybody together when we run as a regional class, so I was racing with
> Gord's F Ford.
>
> Brian
>
> At 01:34 PM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hey all,
> >
> >Forgive my naiveté but do I infer from this posting that some/all of the
> vintage
> >Formula Fords running in vintage are over-bored?  I thought the class was
> restricted
> >to 1600 cc?
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >Brian Evans wrote:
> >
> >> >Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:51:38 -0400
> >> >To: derek.lola@sympatico.ca
> >> >From: Brian Evans <brian@uunet.ca>
> >> >Subject: starter motor help needed
> >> >
> >> >Fantastic time!  We were at Shannonville at the weekend, I did a 1:17 on
> >> the pro track and finished second overall, 6 seconds back from Gord Lowe's
> >> Merlyn FFord.  I was very chuffed, to be sure!  But the starter motor quit
> >> after three race sessions.
> >> >
> >> >So I'm running a big ford, just under 1.9 litres, and running up to 7000
> >> rpm.  My theory is that the vibration beats up the solenoid. What is your
> >> experience -  does the motor itself give problems usually, or can you fix 
>it
> >> by changing the solenoid?  What do the guys with BDD's do? Those have about
> >> the same stroke as my motor (85mm bore by 82mm stroke).
> >> >
> >> >Brian
> >> >
> >> >At 05:41 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >>Brian
> >> >>
> >> >>9000 rpm engines beat the shit out of them - visit any big rig with
> >> >>Atlantic or Chevron etc - they carry dozens of spares!
> >> >>
> >> >>But last weekend I had a bad battery and it spark eroded one of the
> >> >>solenoid contacts - so it clicked but didn't contact.
> >> >>
> >> >>But 2m07 on Sunday made it all worthwhile!
> >> >>
> >> >>Derek
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Brian Evans wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm having trouble with my Hitachi starter too - what's wrong with 
>yours?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Brian
> >> >>>
> >> >>> At 12:17 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >>> >OK - I stand corrected - maybe I over reacted to JYS's comments 
>because
> >> >>> >I was in the middle of losing Friday's track sessions while I fixed my
> >> >>> >Japanese starter [which replaced a perfectly functional and reliable
> >> >>> >Lucas one].
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >By the way he was a very eloquent, knowledgeable and interesting
> >> >>> >speaker.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Derek
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Patrick Young wrote:
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Must say I agree wholeheartedly with David. Technology will find a
> way...
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Not that JYS is being incorrect in what he says for now...but I
> mean  all
> >> >>> >> we're talking about is manpower. I mean starting pre war Auto Unions
> >> takes
> >> >>> >> as I recall a three hour routine (this was why one could not be
> >> started at
> >> >>> >> the Louis Vuitton Hurlingham Club concours a few years back because
> >> by the
> >> >>> >> time somebody read the regulations at lunchtime, it was already too
> >> late for
> >> >>> >> a 3 pm fire-up!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Oh, and David, I'll happily be one of your seven push starters,
> >> assistants
> >> >>> >> or whatever, if you can find the F1 car donor!
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Regards,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Patrick
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >> >Derek,
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >I'm nothing like as miserable about the future.  A couple of
> years ago
> >> >>> >> >people were saying that all the computerised gizmos on road cars
> >> wouldn't
> >> >>> >> be
> >> >>> >> >repairable and all of todays 'future classics' would become 
>inanimate
> >> >>> >> >hulks.  Engine management systems are available off the shelf for
> >> >>> >> motorsport
> >> >>> >> >applications and can easily be mapped to replace standard 
>equipment.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >In 10-20 years time the jobs of those seven people will be on the
> >> chip.  If
> >> >>> >> >the role is something like shovelling dry ice into the rad
> intakes then
> >> >>> >> >someone will have come up with a free standing chiller with a
> valve into
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> >cooling system like today we plug booster batteries in.  F1 is a
> >> world of
> >> >>> >> >tiny lead times.  Historic Motorsport is a world of almost infinite
> >> >>> >> >reflection.  We'll think of a way.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >Then again - if I could get a ride in an F1 car I'd have no problem
> >> finding
> >> >>> >> >seven friends to give me a bump start!!
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >David
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >Derek Harling wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >> Quote from Jackie Stewart at this weekend's vintage races at The
> >> Glen -
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>  - you guys better enjoy your current vintage racing because 
>there
> >> is no
> >> >>> >> >> way you can expect to race today's F1 cars in, say, 10-20
> years. For
> >> >>> >> >> instance - it takes a team of seven just to start the engine.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> Brian Evans
> >> >>> Director, Global Sales
> >> >>> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> Brian Evans
> >> Director, Global Sales
> >> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company
> >
> >
> Brian Evans
> Director, Global Sales
> UUNET, An MCI WorldCom Company


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