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As you may have seen in a previous post, many (most?) TR3's and TR3A's had =
a fuse added to this circuit to protect against accident damage to the tail=
lights causing a short circuit.=C2=A0 This in-line fuse may be in the pass=
enger footwell or under hood near the voltage regulator.
Dave=20
=20
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:55:01 PM CDT, Allan Stults <acstults@h=
ushmail.com> wrote: =20
The brake lights work as do the turn signals.=C2=A0 All gauges work as doe=
s the heater fan.=C2=A0 Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.=
=C2=A0 I believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?=C2=A0 I've re=
placed them both.=C2=A0 I can find no loose wires under the dash.=C2=A0 The=
wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness.=C2=A0=
Everything worked until the paint job.
Thanks again all for your info,
Allan
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
Good point.=C2=A0 it wouldn't.=C2=A0 But the information offered was a bit =
sparce.=C2=A0 Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal light=
s work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.=C2=A0 =
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.=C2=A0 Later TR's have a fuse in the =
fuse block for that.
Dave=20
=20
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net=
<auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote: =20
=20
But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?
=20
=C2=A0
=20
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
=20
=C2=A0
=20
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D
=20
=20
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
was painted they may no longer be grounded.
=20
Regards, Tony
=20
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:
=20
Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front sid=
e lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too=
.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
From: Triumphs<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] electrical issue
=20
=C2=A0
=20
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
items are working.
=20
I have a '62 TR 3B.=C2=A0 I recently had it painted.=C2=A0 The painter took=
it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).=C2=A0 After bringing it h=
ome, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.=C2=
=A0 All other electrical items are working.=C2=A0 Are those 2 items, dash a=
nd tail lights on the same circuit?=C2=A0 Everything was working before the=
paint job.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Thanks in advance for any help,
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Allan Stults
=20
Veneta, Oregon
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=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">As you may have seen in a previous post, man=
y (most?) TR3's and TR3A's had a fuse added to this circuit to protect agai=
nst accident damage to the tail lights causing a short circuit. This =
in-line fuse may be in the passenger footwell or under hood near the voltag=
e regulator.</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp2fec14f7signature"><div s=
tyle=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weig=
ht: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; fon=
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tyle: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: no=
rmal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br></span></div>=
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:55:01 PM CDT, Alla=
n Stults <acstults@hushmail.com> wrote:
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, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #cc=
c;padding-left: 8px;margin: 0px 0px 0px 8px" class=3D"ydp74b77853inline_rep=
ly_quote_container" data-split-quote-node=3D"true">
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<div><div id=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636"><div><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial;font-size:14px;line-height:150%;"></span><div>The bra=
ke lights work as do the turn signals. All gauges work as does the he=
ater fan. Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work. I b=
elieve there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct? I've replaced the=
m both. I can find no loose wires under the dash. The wiring ha=
rness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness. Everythin=
g worked until the paint job.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thank=
s again all for your info,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Allan</d=
iv><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636yqt07711" class=3D=
"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636yqt9909146462"><div class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299=
636hush-quoting-section">On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" <dave1m=
assey@cs.com> wrote:<blockquote style=3D"border-left:solid 1px #ccc;marg=
in-left:10px;padding-left:10px;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636hush-quot=
e"><div style=3D"display:block;"><div style=3D"display:block;"></div><div s=
tyle=3D"display:block;"><div style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydp1a9cf278yahoo-styl=
e-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good point. it wouldn't. But the =
information offered was a bit sparce. Is it just the tail lights and =
do the brake turn signal lights work?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe there is a fuse for those lights somew=
here in the harness. It was a dealer upgrade at some point. Lat=
er TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.</div><div><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydp1a9cf278signature"><div st=
yle=3D"color:#000;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;font-size:12pt;line-hei=
ght:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style=3D"color:#=
000;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;fon=
t-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br clea=
r=3D"none"></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans=
-serif;color:#000;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><br clear=3D"none"></di=
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t-header">
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, aupr=
ichard uprichard.net <auprichard@uprichard.net> wrote:
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, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left:1px solid #ccc=
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06335"><div>
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>
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"color:windowtext;">But how would bad grounds affect the dash li=
ghts?</span></p>=20
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"color:windowtext;"> </span></p>=20
<div id=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335yqt26988" class=
=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335yqt0945128921"><div sty=
le=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0 0;">
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;">Fro=
m:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:win=
dowtext;"> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
</div>
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"> &n=
bsp;</p>=20
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><sp=
an class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335pfptpreheader22=
494b"><span style=3D"font-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">I'd check grounds too - if =
the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may no lo=
nger be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard
uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D
</span></span></p>=20
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<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:1pt;color:#FFF;"></span></p>=20
</div>
<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>=20
<p>Regards, Tony</p>=20
<div>
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">On =
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:</p>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">Yes=
=E2=80=93 same circuit. But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front side l=
ights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.</=
p>=20
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">&nb=
sp;</p>=20
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">Get=
under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.</p>=20
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">&nb=
sp;</p>=20
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0 0;">
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs
<a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;"><trium=
phs-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stults<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;=
">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
</div>
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">&nb=
sp;</p>=20
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:=
0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"display:none;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8=
530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1"><span style=3D"font-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">I =
have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to p=
aint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered th=
at the
tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items a=
re working.
</span></span></p>=20
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The=
painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After =
bringing it
home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&=
nbsp; All other electrical items are working. Are those 2 items, dash=
and tail lights on the same circuit? Everything was working before t=
he paint job.</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;"> </span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">Thanks in advance for any help,</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;"> </span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">Allan Stults</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706=
335MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:=
sans-serif;">Veneta, Oregon</span></p>=20
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0;" class=3D"ydp74b77853yiv7126299636ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><br=
clear=3D"none">
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</p>=20
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** <a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">triump=
hs@autox.team.net</a> **</pre>=20
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