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Re: [TR] electrical issue

To: "DAVID MASSEY" <dave1massey@cs.com>, "Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net, "auprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
From: "Allan Stults" <acstults@hushmail.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2026 15:55:00 -0700
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The brake lights work as do the turn signals.  All gauges work as does
the heater fan.  Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.  I
believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?  I've replaced
them both.  I can find no loose wires under the dash.  The wiring
harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness. 
Everything worked until the paint job.
Thanks again all for your info,
Allan
On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY"  wrote:Good point.  it
wouldn't.  But the information offered was a bit sparce.  Is it just
the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness. 
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.  Later TR's have a fuse in the
fuse block for that.
Dave 
                                                                      
                   On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT,
auprichard uprichard.net  wrote:                                      
                
        But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?  
        From: Triumphs  On Behalf Of Tony Drews
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
 To: triumphs@autox.team.net
 Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue   
        I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On
4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard  uprichard.net wrote: â?? â?? â?? â??
â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â??
â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â??
â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â?? â??    
        I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and
the body was painted they may no longer be grounded.  

        Regards, Tony   

        On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:    

        Yes â?? same circuit.  But Iâ??d also expect the front side lights /
running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too.  
        Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light
switch.  
        From: Triumphs  On Behalf Of Allan Stults
 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
 To: triumphs@autox.team.net
 Subject: [TR] electrical issue   
        I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home,
I discovered that the  tail lights and dash lights were not working.
All other electrical items are working.    

        I have a '62 TR 3B.  I recently had it painted.  The painter took it
apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).  After bringing it 
home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not
working.  All other electrical items are working.  Are those 2 items,
dash and tail lights on the same circuit?  Everything was working
before the paint job.    
        Thanks in advance for any help,    
        Allan Stults    

        Veneta, Oregon   
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v>The brake lights work as do the turn signals.&nbsp; All gauges work as do=
es the heater fan.&nbsp; Only the tail lights and dash lights do not work.&=
nbsp; I believe there are only 2 fuses for the car, correct?&nbsp; I've rep=
laced them both.&nbsp; I can find no loose wires under the dash.&nbsp; The =
wiring harness was replaced 2 years ago with a high quality harness.&nbsp; =
Everything worked until the paint job.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks agai=
n all for your info,</div><div><br></div><div>Allan</div><br><div class=3D"=
hush-quoting-section">On 4/21/2026 at 2:41 PM, "DAVID MASSEY" &lt;dave1mass=
ey@cs.com&gt; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"hush-quote" style=3D"border-left:s=
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lass=3D"ydp1a9cf278yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica,=
 sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good point.&nbsp; it wou=
ldn't.&nbsp; But the information offered was a bit sparce.&nbsp; Is it just=
 the tail lights and do the brake turn signal lights work?</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe there is a fuse for those lights=
 somewhere in the harness.&nbsp; It was a dealer upgrade at some point.&nbs=
p; Later TR's have a fuse in the fuse block for that.</div><div><br></div><=
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                        On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, aupr=
ichard uprichard.net &lt;auprichard@uprichard.net&gt; wrote:
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-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><span style=3D"color:window=
text;">But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?</span></p>=20
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-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><span style=3D"color:window=
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:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;"> Triumphs &lt;=
triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
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iv8530706335pfptpreheader22494b"><span style=3D"font-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">=
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
 was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard
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<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>=20
<p>Regards, Tony</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, aupri=
chard uprichard.net wrote:</p>=20
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt;">
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit.=
&nbsp; But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front side lights / running lights n=
ot to be working and possibly the headlights too.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">Get under the dash and chec=
k the wires in and out of the light switch.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">&nbsp;</p>=20
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1pt;padding:3pt 0 0;">
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><b><span style=3D"font-size=
:11pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs
<a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;">&lt;trium=
phs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stults<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;=
">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>=20
</div>
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;">&nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal" style=3D"font-size:12pt;font=
-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:#000;margin:0;"><span class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2y=
iv8530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1" style=3D"display:none;"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:1pt;color:#FFF;">I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The=
 painter took it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringi=
ng it home, I discovered that the
 tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical items a=
re working.
</span></span></p>=20
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">I have a '6=
2 TR 3B.&nbsp; I recently had it painted.&nbsp; The painter took it apart t=
o paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).&nbsp; After bringing it
 home, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.&=
nbsp; All other electrical items are working.&nbsp; Are those 2 items, dash=
 and tail lights on the same circuit?&nbsp; Everything was working before t=
he paint job.</span></p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"line-height:150%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;c=
olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">&nbsp;</spa=
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olor:#000;margin:0;" class=3D"ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">Thanks in a=
dvance for any help,</span></p>=20
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e=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">Veneta, Ore=
gon</span></p>=20
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