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The TR6 definitely does.=C2=A0 And I recall reading that the TR3 had an iss=
ue where the tail lights were susceptible to damage from other cars,=C2=A0 =
being mounted so low, that the red wire could get grounded out and when the=
lights were switched on the harness would melt causing potential fire so t=
he factor at some point put in an in-line fuse just for such an occurrence.
In fact, a quick Google search shows several sources indicating that fact a=
nd the location of the fuse (although the location varies from passenger fo=
otwell and under hood next to the voltage regulator.
But the fact remains that if the tail lights AND the dash lights are not wo=
rking it is likely a common feed point interruption which could be a fuse o=
r a dodgey bullet connector.
Dave=20
=20
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 05:21:07 PM CDT, dave northrup <dave@rant=
eer.com> wrote: =20
Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits
-------- Original message --------From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> D=
ate: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, trium=
phs@autox.team.net, "auprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>Su=
bject: Re: [TR] electrical issue=20
Good point.=C2=A0 it wouldn't.=C2=A0 But the information offered was a bit =
sparce.=C2=A0 Is it just the tail lights and do the brake turn signal light=
s work?
I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in the harness.=C2=A0 =
It was a dealer upgrade at some point.=C2=A0 Later TR's have a fuse in the =
fuse block for that.
Dave=20
On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <au=
prichard@uprichard.net> wrote:
But how would bad grounds affect the dash lights?
=C2=A0
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] electrical issue
=C2=A0
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
was painted they may no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:3=
8 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=
=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D
I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the body=
was painted they may no longer be grounded.
Regards, Tony
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:
Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front sid=
e lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too=
.
=C2=A0
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.
=C2=A0
From: Triumphs<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Allan Stults
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] electrical issue
=C2=A0
I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apart to=
paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home, I discovered =
that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All other electrical=
items are working.
I have a '62 TR 3B.=C2=A0 I recently had it painted.=C2=A0 The painter took=
it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.).=C2=A0 After bringing it h=
ome, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working.=C2=
=A0 All other electrical items are working.=C2=A0 Are those 2 items, dash a=
nd tail lights on the same circuit?=C2=A0 Everything was working before the=
paint job.
=C2=A0
Thanks in advance for any help,
=C2=A0
Allan Stults
Veneta, Oregon
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=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The TR6 definitely does. And I recall =
reading that the TR3 had an issue where the tail lights were susceptible to=
damage from other cars, being mounted so low, that the red wire coul=
d get grounded out and when the lights were switched on the harness would m=
elt causing potential fire so the factor at some point put in an in-line fu=
se just for such an occurrence.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">In fact, a quick Google s=
earch shows several sources indicating that fact and the location of the fu=
se (although the location varies from passenger footwell and under hood nex=
t to the voltage regulator.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">But the fact remains that if =
the tail lights AND the dash lights are not working it is likely a common f=
eed point interruption which could be a fuse or a dodgey bullet connector.<=
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Correct me if I'm wrong - TRs never put fuses on light circuits
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<div>From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> </div>
<div>Date: 4/21/26 4:49 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
<div>To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, triumphs@autox.team.net, "a=
uprichard uprichard.net" <auprichard@uprichard.net>
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ffered was a bit sparce. Is it just the tail lights and do the brake =
turn signal lights work?</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I believe there is a fuse for those lights somewhere in th=
e harness. It was a dealer upgrade at some point. Later TR's ha=
ve a fuse in the fuse block for that.</div>
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sday, April 21, 2026 at 10:40:26 AM CDT, auprichard uprichard.net <aupri=
chard@uprichard.net> wrote:
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"color:windowtext;">But how would bad grounds affect the dash=
lights?</span></p>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
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<b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;=
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;co=
lor:windowtext;"> Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 10:05 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] electrical issue</span></p>
</div>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
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r22494b"><span style=3D"font-size:1.0pt;color:white;">I'd check grounds too=
- if the lights are grounded to the body and the body was painted they may=
no longer be grounded. Regards, Tony On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM,
auprichard uprichard.net wrote: =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =
=E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=80=8D =E2=
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<p>I'd check grounds too - if the lights are grounded to the body and the b=
ody was painted they may no longer be grounded.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony</p>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
On 4/20/2026 5:38 PM, auprichard uprichard.net wrote:</p>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
Yes =E2=80=93 same circuit. But I=E2=80=99d also expect the front sid=
e lights / running lights not to be working and possibly the headlights too=
.</p>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
Get under the dash and check the wires in and out of the light switch.</p>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">From:</span></b=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Triumphs
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"; style=3D"=
color:blue;text-decoration:underline;" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">
<triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allan Stult=
s<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 20, 2026 4:17 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; style=
=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline;" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
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triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] electrical issue</span></p>
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lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, sans-serif;color:b=
lack;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530706335MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"display:none;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2y=
iv8530706335pfptpreheaderf0cb7f1"><span style=3D"font-size:1.0pt;color:whit=
e;">I have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took it apar=
t to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it home,
I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights were not working. All ot=
her electrical items are working.
</span></span></p>
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<p style=3D"line-height:150%;margin:0in;font-size:12pt;font-family:Aptos, s=
ans-serif;color:black;" class=3D"ydpae51dbd7yiv3724676609ydpa5d3f0d2yiv8530=
706335MsoNormal">
<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">I=
have a '62 TR 3B. I recently had it painted. The painter took =
it apart to paint (fenders, doors, trunk, etc.). After bringing it ho=
me, I discovered that the tail lights and dash lights
were not working. All other electrical items are working. Are =
those 2 items, dash and tail lights on the same circuit? Everything w=
as working before the paint job.</span></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">T=
hanks in advance for any help,</span></p>
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<span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;line-height:150%;font-family:sans-serif;">A=
llan Stults</span></p>
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eneta, Oregon</span></p>
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